
Neil Wyatt
@neilwyatt
Posted by Nick_G on 10/03/2017 20:31:59:
Posted by alan ord 2 on 10/03/2017 20:12:52:
It would however be interesting to hear something from Warco or the show organisers. Strange how quite they have been.
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I would imagine it's because they have zero knowledge of this thread being the main cause.
Nick
Different suppliers have different policies about responding on forums. Most companies will want view on an issue like this to come from the top or not at all, and not all companies have an MD who is comfortable with this sort of discussion, especially as whatever they say, someone will gainsay it! A notable exception are Arc Euro Trade and Ketan posted at length about why he would no longer be attending shows.
Neil

mechman48
@mechman48
…'Handy to visit if you live near, as I suspect those saying it is easy do, but it is a 2day trip and overnight cost to visit Warco from the third biggest city in the country, Leeds'…
I live another hour up north… 'Boro', so should I have the wherewithal, & the need for a new machine I'd be in the same boat as Ian & I've given up driving long distances now due to back probs so visiting daaan saaath aint going to happen. I believe Axminster have opened a showroom in South Tyneside during the past 18 mo. or so, so maybe Warco / ArcEuro etc might consider opening a branch up in our neck of the woods, there are plenty of colleges, University, & training centres in our region to possibly consider 'commercial opportunities'.
There are quite a number of 'us model engineers' in our region, be it professional / amateur to be of interest to suppliers & whom I think would love to go somewhere local to peruse offerings. I have travelled to Harrogate & latterly Doncaster but have shared transport costs with other 'modellers' so it was worthwhile, but we are now saying is this becoming 'a trip to far' & have all decided that trips to Crystal Palace & the likes is too long a hike without stopping over… we are all over 65…( ok there are plenty of young 'uns out there )… on limited incomes, so costs do play a part, I realise that Internet shopping is the norm now & yes I am guilty of said offence, but we 'oldies still like to see, touch, feel how a machine looks & operates 'in the flesh' & I for one am guilty of spending more than planned when touching an article at these shows… hmm that's nice, could do with that, might come in handy one day' etc. … food for thought?
Just my tuppence worth.
George.
Edited By mechman48 on 10/03/2017 11:13:43

Robbo
@robbo
Don't just cost in the number of days of the show.
I recall seeing at the Harrogate show big artics from the trade suppliers parked "out the back".
It must take days to sort equipment large and small and load the vehicles, set off 2 days before to allow for unloading and setting up, then do it all over again to go home and return everything to stock.
I really missed the ArcEuroTrade stand when they stopped attending, but understand the reasons.
Like Lathejack, I am not in the market for new machinery, probably all I would buy from Warco is another 5 litres of cutting oil!
Edited By Robbo on 09/03/2017 23:18:12

Vic
@vic
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 05/03/2017 19:40:41:
You might want to consider John Stevenson's 10-20-40 blocks which fit together unlike 1-2-3 blocks…
Neil
I bought a set of those with the 20-40-80 blocks but haven't used them yet, they're a bit on the "Dinky" size!

Peter Simpson 1
@petersimpson1
I'm looking for a 4 jaw chuck for my Boxford ME. I saw an Arceurotrade Zither 4 Jaw slim line chucks which look OK, Has anybody got experience of this make or could suggest a better option. I would prefer a 6" chuck.
Thanks Peter

Neil Wyatt
@neilwyatt
You might want to consider John Stevenson's 10-20-40 blocks which fit together unlike 1-2-3 blocks…
Neil

Thor 🇳🇴
@thor
Have a look here. You can also get them in metric version.
Thor
Edited By Thor on 05/03/2017 16:28:50

JohnF
@johnf59703
,See here from Arc a sensitive drilling attachment, I have a spring loaded one made close to 50 years ago used on a jig borer drilling (a lot) 0.015" holes PM me if you want a photo etc
**LINK**
PS I think the max speed was 2500 rpm so don't worry about theoretical speed too much
Edited By JohnF on 05/03/2017 09:39:33

Martin Cottrell
@martincottrell21329
Posted by Nick_G on 03/03/2017 22:11:42:
Posted by Martin Cottrell on 03/03/2017 21:14:26:
How did you produce those lovely smooth curved corners on the crank webs?
Martin.
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I would 'like' to say I am a demi-god with a file.
But I would be lying .!
The truth is they are courtesy of an ARC product in the form of :- **LINK**
If I had done them freehand they would have looked like a well chewed wine gum. 
Nick
Ah yes, hadn't thought of using one of those! I thought maybe you had rounded them off on a belt sander but they looked too uniform to have been done like that freehand. All looking fabulous so far, will be an impressive engine when finished!
Martin.

Nick_G
@nick_g
Posted by Martin Cottrell on 03/03/2017 21:14:26:
How did you produce those lovely smooth curved corners on the crank webs?
Martin.
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I would 'like' to say I am a demi-god with a file.
But I would be lying .!
The truth is they are courtesy of an ARC product in the form of :- **LINK**
If I had done them freehand they would have looked like a well chewed wine gum. 
Nick

petro1head
@petro1head
Ok, when back in the hut to have a fresh look. Places the workpience on the table and wound down the head until the tool just touched the work. Then wound down the head some more to see if anything was moving and YES the handle for the quill was rotating. So I think thats the problem, I should have locked the quill
Doooh!
So thats to you guys I have learned something and will lock everthing aexcept the moving axis.
ASF, what do you mean the cutter is dull? This is the cutter I am using – **LINK** At the time of buying I did wonder if I should have splashed out and bought Carbide but they were 3 x the price?
Edited By petro1head on 03/03/2017 18:45:26

petro1head
@petro1head
I am using these collets – **LINK** which go straight into the spindle and the supplied draw bar.
Will check the tool however its brand new from Arc, HSS type. Spped was about 950rpm as per the chart I got off this forum. Feed, dont know Feet Per Min but not fast
. I was take a .5mm cut. (when everthing is working fine could I take a deaper cut?)
Being logical I would say either the tool is moving in the collet or the quill is moving. If, and it could well be, the tool was blunt I am sure I would be able to tell and it would still try to cut.
BTW Thanks for you help and interest in my problem 

John Stevenson 1
@johnstevenson1
Posted by simon Hewitt 1 on 01/03/2017 21:30:35:
How do you hold thread wires in place? Drove me nuts.
Arc Euro have them for a reasonable price, but I have never really used them as I cannot get the hang of holding in place.
Arc do a set with holders, look for the set in the square box instead of the wallet, but looks like both sets are out of stock at the moment.
Mt Swali could we have an update please ?

simon Hewitt 1
@simonhewitt1
How do you hold thread wires in place? Drove me nuts.
Arc Euro have them for a reasonable price, but I have never really used them as I cannot get the hang of holding in place.

Howard Lewis
@howardlewis46836
Details of Jacobs standard tapers are shown on page 3.5 of Tubal Cain's Model Engineers Handbook, 3rd Edition.
Issue 10 of the ArcEuroTrade Catalogue, Page 7 shows Chuck Removal wedges, covering JT1, JT2, JT3, and JT6, sold as pairs.
At the top of page 97 there is a comprehensive table giving details of Jacobs Tapers, 0,1,2 Short, 2, 33, 3, 4, 5 and 6, and then DIN tapers, B10, B12, B16, B18, B22 and B24 .
If your small drill press is anything like the Power Devil one that I use to own, the chuck shouldn't need much to remove it. Mine fell out!
Howard
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Bill Mull
@billmull
Hi everybody,
I was browsing a local tool shop yesterday and I spotted this,
https://www.starrett.co.uk/shop/bandsawmachines/bench_top_band_saw/s1105_benchtop/
A bench top bandsaw by Starrett.It looked and felt good quality. I did a bit of online searching for more information or reviews on them but there doesn’t seem to be much in English. It appears that they have been available in southern Europe and South America for a while.
The one in the shop had made in Italy on it.
410 euro is the price here ( (Ireland)
Anyone come across these or have one? I d love to hear how you find it, kinda tempted myself.
Edited By Liam Mulcahy on 26/02/2017 08:14:51
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ChrisB
@chrisb35596
Thanks Neil, you're right, small island but lots of enthusiasts!
Hi George, precisely my thoughts as the machines look too similar!
Think that the first thing I should do is to list all necessary tooling I will be needing to start with, otherwise I'm blowing the budget with just the lathe and milling.
Hello Vincent, good to know there's a fellow co-national on here!
Yep I know the shop, I had asked for a quote for a lathe similar to this:
**LINK**
but without the milling attachment and he asked for 3800Euro, too much I think when for 2900Euro I can get a warco WM280v

Sam Longley 1
@samlongley1
There was a thread Files- best bang per buck In it were a number of comments from forumites re preferences & I believe a video from Arc Euro trade on file making & a particular make of file that they eventually started to import.
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Mark Eisen
@markeisen61287
After the success in removing the the push button oiler on my lathe, I thought I would replace the one on the base of my mill, about the centre of the column.
This one never had a ball in it from new, I kept it covered with a small block of wood.
I managed to get it out but I am unable to press the new one in as it is under a 45° recess on the column.
Would it be feasible to undo the bolts attaching the column and move it back a couple of cm , press it in and reassemble it?
It part No 107 in the parts diagram in the following link.
Can take a pic tomorrow if needed.
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Peter Bell
@peterbell11509
Thanks for the thought. Must confess I didnt contact Ketan direct but I did mail arceuro and they confirmed it was didcontinued with no stock so I thought that was it—unless they have something stashed away?

Douglas Johnston
@douglasjohnston98463
Hi Peter, I think I may have what you are looking for. I bought a stepper from Arceurotrade a while ago for a project that never came to pass and I think it is the size you are after, but will need to check (won't be able to check until this afternoon ) . It has been wired up and checked out but never used for any purpose so is in perfect condition.
Doug

Peter Bell
@peterbell11509
Thanks everyone. I've looked around again and cannot see a 10mm shaft double ended motor. I rang Zapp and they have confirmed its a none standard motor especially with the shaft size but similar to a nema34.
I planned using a couple of pillar bearing and come out with a 10mm shaft to replace the motor and then just drive the shaft with a standard motor.
Before I do that I just wonderd if someone had bought a arceuro motor which was looking for a new home—you never know unless you ask!
Peter

Martin 100
@martin100
More than one lathe? A 1960's Boxford model A that was once a model B, a very early 1950's Boxford model B that was once a model A, two Boxford 160TCL's with turrets, an arceuro sourced Sieg X3 and a Boxford VMC 190. Could really do with a slightly larger swing lathe (12 inch or so) and a larger mill (something weighing a couple of tonnes with both vertical and horizontal capability) A surface grinder would be nice too

Michael Gilligan
@michaelgilligan61133
Posted by Peter Bell on 15/02/2017 18:02:27:
Its a model 160-010-00450 from there data sheet and is 75mm square x 85mm (Nema 34?) deep with a 10mm double spindle, 3.5Nm 1.8% step.
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Peter,
Please forgive me for 'correcting' your dimensions … but I think it may help:
75mm square is not a standard NEMA frame size; so I had a look at the data-sheet:
**LINK**
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/projects/stepper/350Ncm%20Stepper%20Motor%20160-010-00450.pdf
… Try 85mm square x 75mm long and 1.8° step angle.
MichaelG.