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  • #43858

    In reply to: Small Milling Machine

    Frank Dolman
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      @frankdolman72357

       For Peter G Shaw’s reasons, plus shortage of space, I have also decided on Warco’s Mini Mill. I would therefore be very pleased to see full details of replacing the gears with metal ones from Arc Euro Trade or anybody else.  I rather gather from his post that Peter has not yet done the job but when he has or if anybody else has, I am all ears ( or eyes)

      #43855

      In reply to: Small Milling Machine

      Peter G. Shaw
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        @peterg-shaw75338
        Hi David,
         
        I see no-one else has come up with anything so I’ll just relate my experiences.
         
        For reasons of weight, ie a one man band, I decided that I wanted a milling machine of less that 100kgs. Also, I decided that I wanted a square column to avoid the possible loss of  sideways  registration when moving the head up and down. Effectively this meant I was limited to the Sieg X2 or equivalent.
         
        Unfortunately this machine has two problems. One is that the electronics are suspect (MOSFET blowing) and the internal plastic gears are liable to break.
         
        Now Warco have a MiniMill. It is not made by Sieg, but certainly does seem to be based on that design. Warco’s machine has a 550W motor against the standard 350W so I hope the electronics have been suitably upgraded. In any case, for  me, changing a MOSFET is no big deal. However, as I quickly found out, it DOES have the plastic internal gears. And they DO break. Fortunately, Arc Euro Trade do have some metal gears for (I think) the C2 or C3 lathe (not sure which), and these are also suitable for the X2 and the Warco MiniMill.
         
        Please note: I am not complaining about the MiniMill. I was aware of the possible problems, but hoped otherwise. Furthermore, I have no connection with Arc Euro Trade other than as a customer.
         
        Good luck in your quest.
         
        Peter G. Shaw
        #43723
        Colin Abrey
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          @colinabrey20074
          #43591

          In reply to: Ball screws

          Rob Manley
          Participant
            @robmanley79788

            I would visit http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/ They supply ball screws and have links to various projects and forums which have descriptions and hints on this kind of thing.  Rob

            #43311

            In reply to: ER32 etc collets

            Jim Whetren
            Participant
              @jimwhetren72358
              Hello Tony, 
              I agree, I use ER 32 colets on my lathe, spin indexer and dividing head, also on the mill until I changed to ER 20 here; to gain better access with the smaller closing nut.
               
              I also use the ER 20 collets on a Worden grinder, as they cover metric and imperial shank cutters. I have also made a chuck to use them on a Cowells lathe. Making the chucks is quite straight forward, but I cheat and buy the closing nuts which are reasonably priced.
               
              My lathe has a 3 MT which will pass 20mm using the ER 32 collet. If you use a 3 MT holder, you will need a drawbar and will loose this advantage.
               
              My collets and closing nuts and a backplate fitting chuck for the lathe came from Arc Eurotrade, (usual disclaimer) and are of very good quality and also reasonably priced.
               
              Go for it
               
              Jim
              #43056

              In reply to: Lathe for Beginner

              Dave Jones 1
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                @davejones1
                I started out with a unimat 3, and they are excellent little lathes.  The problem is that they are now becomming regarded as collectable and as such parts can be a bit pricey.  I would recommend having a look at the website http://www.lathes.co.uk which has feedback on most types of lathe. 
                The main problem I had with the unimat is that it has small centre height, but i suppose it depends what type of model your interested in making as to whether thats a problem.
                The arceurotrade sieg lathes are good value for money but they require a bit of fiddling with to get them set up properly. 
                I would also recommend getting the mini lathe book from the workshop practice series if your thinking about getting a 3 1/2″ centre height chinese lathe.
                #42951

                In reply to: Rotary Table

                Dunc
                Participant
                  @dunc
                  Robbo
                   
                  Thanks for your reply. My computer’s been acting up so online sessions a bit sporadic.
                   
                  Courtesy of Arc Euro Trade I downloaded the Christmas 2007 article – ie the lathe article only.
                   
                  #42691

                  In reply to: Choosing a lthe

                  Niloch
                  Participant
                    @niloch

                    I have to say at the outset that I know nothing about the Warco 918.  However, I do know that besides Ebay, Myford themselves sell second-hand reconditioned lathes. Shame you can’t hire a small van, drive it on to Eurostar and vist Myford’s open-house  on September 24th to 26th and maybe make a purchase.  See their web site.  Usual disclaimer.

                    #42593

                    In reply to: Rotary Table

                    Robbo
                    Participant
                      @robbo
                      Hi Dunc,
                       
                      Try this link to ArcEuroTrade Projects&Articles.   There are some about the C3 lathe, Bearings for the ML7 crossslide leadscrew,  converting to CNC, etc
                       
                       
                      Funnily enough, the article about the rotary table isn’t in the projects, but in the sales area for rotary tables, as part of the description
                       
                       
                      #42591

                      In reply to: Rotary Table

                      Dunc
                      Participant
                        @dunc
                        Thanks Robbo for that link. Curious, I went to the Arceurotrade site, then Projects & Articles hoping there may be more topics but could not find them. Trying truncated listings got a
                        “Virtual Directory does not allow contents to be listed.”
                         
                        Are there other gems of info like this? If yes, links would be appreciated.
                         
                        Thanks
                        #42569

                        In reply to: Rotary Table

                        Robbo
                        Participant
                          @robbo
                          Hi Ken,
                          for some advice on using the rotary table, try this link:
                                                        
                                                  http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/projects/rotarytable/UsingARotaryTable.pdf
                           
                          Incidentally, GHT’s method for the slots was to drill a hole at each end of the slot and then mill out in between them.  Of course, this may be teaching Granny——-.
                           
                          Sometimes its quicker, and less messy, to chain drill between the holes and just clean up the slot with the mill.
                           
                          Cheers
                           
                           
                          #42568

                          In reply to: spin indexers

                          John Stevenson 1
                          Participant
                            @johnstevenson1
                            Just to point out that the Spin Indexer as sold by Arceurotrade, is to a unique design that can hold ER32 and 5C collets on the same tool with no modifications.
                             
                            Given that the 5C series works in fixed sizes and the ER system works over a 1mm or 40 thou range per collet with no gaps this gives you two bites of the cherry depending what collet system you run.
                             
                            Another plus is the ER series is the only work holding and tool holding system readily available so it has a spin off for the people who share collets between a mill, lathe and attachments.
                             
                            John S.
                            #42558

                            In reply to: slitting saw woes

                            Jim Whetren
                            Participant
                              @jimwhetren72358
                              Hello Roy,
                               
                              To sharpen saws on the Worden I used a diamond wheel from Arc Euro Trade.
                               
                              D4BT9 15 Deg. Taper Page 22 of the catalogue.
                               
                              This gave excellent results with such items requiring a fine edge to the grinding wheel, gashing end mills for instance.
                               
                              Regards,
                              Jim
                              Dave Jones 1
                              Participant
                                @davejones1
                                ***** I have removed a link from this posting ***** The website mentioned has plans scanned from a book, and therefore copyright cannot be proven or ascertained.
                                 
                                 
                                http://homepage3.nifty.com/amigos/index-e.html a website with mods and simple tools made on a mini lathe similar to the C3 sold by arc eurotrade.

                                Edited By Richmond on 24/07/2009 11:33:21

                                #42406

                                In reply to: Hobbymat 65

                                Graham Horne
                                Participant
                                  @grahamhorne65034
                                  Was impressed with Prazimat features and concept but decided to start with what was one of the first few minilathes? to grow bigger than watchmaker size.
                                  Noticed in the MEW Special Edition Readers’ Workshop that the Hobbymat 65 was often seen in the background. That these eminent gentlemen had selected one was good enough for me. I would really appreciate advise on compatable tooling to support this bare machine, things like ‘ Emco travelling rests fit’ or ‘Arceurotrade 5″ 4-jaw chucks will mount’ and ‘Clarke gear change wheels work’.  Or even ‘parts are still gettable at XYZ.com’ Thanks Forummers.
                                  #41668

                                  In reply to: Just starting

                                  Jim McP
                                  Participant
                                    @jimmcp

                                    I’m converting a Warco VMC mill -4 axes mostly running now.

                                    Ballscrew on Z. Original leadscrews with nuts fairly tight give about 0.1mm backlash, which is livable with. I’ve bought suitable ballscrews, but not yet fitted.

                                    Z drive (‘low’ cost rolled thread screw) shows no measurable backlash on 1/10 thou DTI.

                                    6N-m stepper motors via 2:1 reduction tooth belt drive and *8 microstep on X & Y,  A bit smaller on Z and rotary table (vertex 6″).  

                                    Suppliers (UK)  I’ve found OK-

                                    Rapid Electronics -bit like RS but usually cheaper

                                    Active Robots – stepper motors

                                    Arc-Euro- motors ballscrews drive electronics bearings-last year they were selling 3A steper drivers for <£30.

                                    Marchant Dice – ballscrews -often good deals on ebay.

                                    Simply Bearings- what they say.

                                    ArmyRadio.co.uk – ex-army 28V 10A power supply.

                                    CNCZone.com – infinite mine of knowledge

                                    http://www.linuxcnc.org/    Home of EMC2  CNC control software.  Free, good, free, easy to use, free, lots of help available on t’internet, and of course, free.

                                    Be warned- CNC is a fascinating hobby in it’s own right- I’m in danger of never making anything else than more CNC machines.  I’ve got the ML7 in my sights.

                                    Good luck with your conversion 

                                    Jim 

                                     

                                    #41513
                                    David Clark 13
                                    Participant
                                      @davidclark13
                                      Hi There
                                      I use cutting oil.
                                      Arc Euro Tade sell MWC I think which is Metalworkers cutting oil.
                                      Soluble is not ideal especially if you have a digital readout.
                                      The modern synthetic soluble oils can sting if you have a cut as well.
                                      regards David
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