Covid

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

"Statistics will confess to anything if you torture them enough."

And remember that journalists were all those kids who failed math in highschool and took English instead. When I worked in newspapers I was considered the resident mystic because I could calculate percentages.

[Russell EberhardtParticipant @russelleberhardt48058]

Posted by Hopper on 14/04/2021 23:07:48:

And remember that journalists were all those kids who failed math in highschool and took English instead.

They now go to a new university, take "Media Studies", and end up virtually unemployable.

Russell

[JAParticipant @ja]

Deliberately moving off subject:

How come all these useless media types wield so much power in society while those who are useful and actually work have none (other than the vote)?

I could think of many answers but I am taking this no further (before a Moderator steps on me).

JA

Edited By JA on 15/04/2021 11:27:18

Edited By JA on 15/04/2021 11:29:08

[roy entwistleParticipant @royentwistle24699]

Had my second jab of AZ last Sunday. Administered by a girl who looked about 12. Never felt it and been OK ever since

Roy

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Journalists never let the truth and facts get in the way of a good story, the purpose of newspapers is to entertain their readers and make money for their owners, if accurate reporting should ever occur or objective analysis then this is probably accidental. Sit back and have a think about what we are being told and the purpose of it while independent thought is still allowed. Sadly our younger generations are reluctant to hear anything they find does not agree with their own ideas and debate their position. When I was an apprentice in the strike afflicted car industry I had some great tea break debates and some of the best were with a lapsed card carrying communist, the great thing was that although we were poles apart politically we could have a good natured debate and I would count Bill as a friend. The most awful thing is this cancel culture which wishes to stifle debate. If you believe you are right then you should be able to debate your position and if you are good then you may convince your opponent..

Mike

[SteviegtrParticipant @steviegtr]

I just watch the daily Covid news from Dr John Campbell on youtube. At least everything he says is backed up by data sheets.

Steve.

[mark costello 1Participant @markcostello1]

Wife got Her 2nd shot and within 6 hours was really sick. She was shaking the bed really hard, I had to hold Her down.She had the chills, spills and runs all at the same time. Lost a lot of strength and after 4-5 days not all has returned. She looked it up on the web and said She had every symptom that was listed. Said no more of those shots.

News here said the shot might only be good for 8 months.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

There seems to be a wide range of reactions to the various jabs, a friend the same age had no reaction symptoms from the AZ, I had an uncomfortable night and my arm had some discomfort for a few days also AZ, my mother in law had no reaction to her first or second Pfizer jabs, a very fit mate took to his bed for a day and my wife felt sick until lunchtime for about a week and had the chills. My wife and I have both had Covid in January which was unpleasant but bearable with paracetamol, I was near back to normal after 10-14 days but my wife had about 3 weeks of symptoms. My taste/ smell has largely returned but has some changes, the best part is when the cat has a turnout in her litter tray I don’t get the stink but luckily my wife does. I think there is going to be a long list of ongoing effects from covid, one good story I heard today was a man ravaged with cancer was left cancer free after contracting covid, I suppose it doesn’t compensate for the many thousands that didn’t survive but could be interesting if it sheds some light on curing cancer.

Mike

Edited By Mike Poole on 15/04/2021 22:32:14

[Nigel Graham 2Participant @nigelgraham2]

I had slight after-effects from my first dose (Oxford / AZ) – a bad night leaving me washed-out next day, from spells of violent shivering that ended so abruptly they made the 3am silence very eerie. No pain to speak of, just a slight ache in the arm at times.

The vaccination-centre gave me the usual type of medication description and warnings leaflet to tell me of possible side-affects, as well as a card saying what I'd had and when (sufficient in my view for any so-called "vaccine passport&quot.

Jab Two is due in May – presumably still the same though I note studies in using different types are under way.

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My neighbour observed that among her friends the side-effects seemed more with the first or second dose, depending on vaccine type… but this is hardly a large enough population sample for statistics!

Discussing experiences in social circles and on fora like this is fine, but the only web-sites I use for proper medical advice are those of the NHS generally, and my local surgery's.

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I have long been an ELSA subject. No, not a strange activity on the shady side of the street, but English Longitudinal Study of Aging. It sent me a letter recently saying it will shortly send me a Covid-19 antibody test-kit for a general epidemiological study – it's not a personal diagnostic test. (I can decline but have not done so.)

The letter suggests it's similar to one I took part in last year, but under a different aegis. That one mixed a drop of blood with a reagent on an absorbent slip, to produce coloured bands or not according to antibody type and presence.

The 2019 test required attaching a photo of the result to an on-line questionnaire – probably designed by one of the Great Family We-All assuming photo, form and submission are all by "smart" – 'phone! I had to set up camera and tripod, but it all still worked.

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

Got the AZ one. A sore shoulder and some weird pain spots over the following couple of weeks

One was like the top of my head had been hit with a peen hammer

(maybe the missus had been trying to stop me snoring and didn't own up)

My mum got the Asian flu in the 50s and it took her about 6 weeks to get through it so reactions to the vax are expected as immunity builds, proper flu is a heavy duty affliction

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

I know what it was!

It was the satellite tracker getting itself into position

[SamsarandaParticipant @samsaranda]

Wife has just had her second AZ jab, after her first she spent a week mainly in bed with flu like symptoms, after the second she was expecting similar but she had three days where she felt very tired and every time she sat down fell asleep. After the three days she felt right as rain. I had Pfizer jab and after first jab had two days of blinding headaches, now awaiting second jab anytime soon. Wife had to have the AZ jab on medical advice because she has previously suffered an anaphylaxis episode, got an adrenaline injection just in time she was nearly a goner then, fortunately it happened in hospital, consequence of an iodine dye injection. Dave W

[Phil PParticipant @philp]

Myself and the wfe have now both had two AZ jabs which were five weeks apart.

I had no after effects whatsoever, but the first one put my wife's heart into AF for a couple of days which was frightening as she had an operation to cure the AF a couple of years ago and was worried it might not go away again.

It went back to normal after about 48 hours, on the second dose she just felt a few flu like symptoms for about half a day.

We were lucky to get our second jab a bit earlier, she rang the doctor about something unrelated and just mentioned about a second jab and they booked us in for the following week with no bother at all.

Actually thinking about it I went very sleepy when sitting watching telly, but I blamed the Gin for that 

Phil

Edited By Phil P on 18/04/2021 12:04:53

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

How’s this for a message lost in translation:

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MichaelG.

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P.S. __ apparently they also misinterpreted > and < when prioritising the age groups for vaccination.

[ but, of course, I wouldn’t want to try translating English to vernacular Lao ]

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 28/04/2021 18:31:05

[Bill DawesParticipant @billdawes]

At last. Matt Hancock slaps down the media attempt to turn the Covid update into a who paid for Boris's wallpaper session.

Long overdue, should have done that at the start of these updates.

Bill

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