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[Ace ChandlerParticipant @acechandler49785]

I'm trying to do my research to purchase my first milling machine. After looking quite long and hard at the Clarke mill from machinemart, I'm seriously contemplating the Sieg SX2P from ArcEuro

it's obviously a fairly small machine (compared to a bridgeport or something like that!) – can anyone recommend a dividing head that might work with this. When I've been browsing around for heads, I can find them for sale, but it's tricky to gauge the size that they are.

I don't necessarily want to buy the dividing head immediately, but wanted to do to some planning, for example, if there is a better small mill to buy, then I'd rather know that up front I suppose I'm concerned about it having odd sized 'T' slots or something that rules out compatibility with a diving head I might want to buy in the future if I did purchase the SX2P

Thanks, Ace

[John HaineParticipant @johnhaine32865]

Original Myford collets are like hen's teeth and expensive. However you can buy ordinary MT2 finger collets quite cheaply to get the exact size. They can be held in by a drawbar (use threaded rod) or even using the Myford collet closer, though you don't get the self extracting feature with that.

[steamdaveParticipant @steamdave]

Whilst I have nothing against electric vehicles, I think the politicos are jumping on the bandwagon to save us all from death by climate change, or tax us out of existence.

On another news group, I received the following last week. No date given, but from the poster I would think it is up to date.

______________________________________________________

Subject: more CO2 emissions than diesel ones



Electric vehicles in Germany account for more CO2 emissions than diesel

ones, according to a study by German scientists. When CO2 emissions

linked to the production of batteries and the German energy mix – in

which coal still plays an important role – are taken into consideration,

electric vehicles emit 11% to 28% more than their diesel counterparts,

according to the study, presented on Wednesday at the Ifo Institute in

Munich.



Mining and processing the lithium, cobalt and manganese used for

batteries consume a great deal of energy. A Tesla Model 3 battery, for

example, represents between 11 and 15 tonnes of CO2. Given a lifetime of

10 years and an annual travel distance of 15,000 kilometres, this

translates into 73 to 98 grams of CO2 per kilometre, scientists

Christoph Buchal, Hans-Dieter Karl and Hans-Werner Sinn noted in their

study.



The CO2 given off to produce the electricity that powers such vehicles

also needs to be factored in, they say.



When all these factors are considered, each Tesla emits 156 to 180 grams

of CO2 per kilometre, which is more than a comparable diesel vehicle

produced by the German company Mercedes, for example.



The German researchers therefore take issue with the fact that European

officials view electric vehicles as zero-emission ones. They note

further that the EU target of 59 grams of CO2 per km by 2030 corresponds

to a “technically unrealistic” consumption of 2.2 litres of diesel or

2.6 litres of gas per 100 kms.



These new limits pressure German and other European car manufacturers

into switching massively to electric vehicles whereas, the researchers

feel, it would have been preferable to opt for methane engines, “whose

emissions are one-third less than those of diesel motors.”



Oscar Schneider

The Brussels Times

I suppose it all depends on which side of the fence you sit whether you believe the hype or not.

Dave
The Emerald Isle

[AdrianRParticipant @adrianr18614]

I recently bought a level from arc euro, I chose the straight level not the frame one to save money. I wish I had bought the frame one. I am in the process of levelling my lathe now and don't regret getting a cheep one.

I read the spec 0.02mm/m and I understand it is pretty sensitive, but when i started playing with the level I truly appreciated how sensitive it is, a piece of tin foil is a mountain.

The level is too short to bridge the bed, and it is slightly too wide to sit along the slide way. It is not flat bottomed, it only has ground edges. Initial levelling I can use the cross slide. To do the full levelling need to make a bridge across the bed, with one end using a V slide way the other using the flat slide way. Some thing to think about if you buy a level.

[Alan VosParticipant @alanvos39612]

I found that even wth the leadscrew nuts adjusted, there was still more backlash than I liked (I don't recall the numbers). This was traced to float at the hand wheels. Adjust out the float, too tight to turn. Easy to turn, too much float. Much improved by boring out the bearing blocks to add needle roller bearings. Smoother as well. There is plenty of metal. If you mess up, the blocks are cheap enough to replace. I could probably come up with a photo or two if interested. SX2P Bearing Block

[JohnFParticipant @johnf59703]

Owen, there seems to be 4 tapped holes in the cross slide which would indicate provision for fixing a T-slotted sub table similar to the Myford example, you could possibly use one of these suitably modified to fit your machine. The make of you machine is not evident but its likely if you can find this you may well be able to purchase a dedicated one. Maybe search the usual suppliers for a similar item e.g. **LINK**

For packing tools to height I would recumbent steel shim and if you can find any the steel banding used for holding goods to pallets etc is useful but much of it is now plastic.

Is there a makers name anywhere?

John

[Brainsparks30Participant @brainsparks30]

Having got an understanding of Gib strips and correct set up, I noticed my cross slide and compound slide feed screw nuts are worn, the cross slide has a little play and the compound quite a lot.

Can I replace the nuts and be ok, or must the screws be changed as well?

Would the Arc Euro Trade bearing mod fix things cheaper?

[Jon LawesParticipant @jonlawes51698]

**LINK**

This modification is available for the ML7 (I'm aware you are referring to the super 7), I wonder if something similar could be done. I used the bearings listed for my ML7 and it improved things drastically.

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

I Have similar from Arc Euro bought & fitted some time ago; can't complain about performance, battery life length &, as SOD's comment I rarely work out of similar footprint so can concur with all of his findings, should finances vastly improve then I would go up market with something from DRO but as things are I'll continue with what is fitted. For fitting pics see my album 'DRO'. Usual disclaimer applies.

**LINK**

George.

[John OlsenParticipant @johnolsen79199]

Mine didn't come from Arc Euro, but are the same sort of thing. They can be a bit fiddly, there is a bit of a knack to it but I would expect to get a bore within about a thou of nominal with them. But then the internal mike I have for larger bores also can be a bit fiddly, and they are a lot more expensive.

John

[Robin GrahamParticipant @robingraham42208]

Oops. Arc Euro telescopic gauges.

R

[Robin GrahamParticipant @robingraham42208]

I am thinking to buy a set of telescopic bore gauges and have looked at the Arc Euro offering . Does anyone have experience of these particular tools? I had a look on Amazon for reviews of sets at around the same price (£17 ish for a set of six) and opinions were mixed. For example, one reviewer said of the Draper set that it was difficult to get repeatable measurements, but they were OK if one was aiming for 5 thou accuracy. I can do quite a bit better than that with old-fashioned calipers (the type where you rock them in the bore and aim for the same 'feel' in the mic), so no point in spending money if that's true. Of course I know that review isn't directly applicable to the Arc product and that it's not unknown for Amazon reviewers to be somewhat – erm – challenged*.

I'd go up to fifty quid maybe if it makes a significant difference, but Mitutoyo-type prices are too rich for me.

Any advice?

Robin.

* Bought a mandolin off Amazon, (food slicing, not musical), reviewer said blades very sharp, but one star because fingers sliced when trying to shave the last bit off a carrot or summat. Manufacturer's fault apparently.

R.

Postscript – One the daftest I've seen was on the Screwfix site – a chap bought some solid brass slot head screws and complained that (a) they didn't have pozidrive  heads, and (b) they were prone to shear. Don't buy!

R.

Edited By Robin Graham on 17/04/2019 00:51:19

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Posted by Roger B on 10/04/2019 10:17:27:

As a glasses wearer I can recomend the Uvex Super OTG.

**LINK**

I often forget I am wearing them when I leave the cellar.

Perfect. I've been looking for someting to fit over regular glasses. Sadly out of stock at ArcEuro though.

[Roger BParticipant @rogerb61624]

As a glasses wearer I can recomend the Uvex Super OTG.

**LINK**

I often forget I am wearing them when I leave the cellar.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

We may be splitting hairs, Phil, but the Chinese are not guilty of inventing a 'China Export' mark for the purpose of misleading Europeans. Some Chinese makers, not all, are guilty of faking CE marks and documentation. In this they are not alone: I cannot think of any country that hasn't had a proportion of dishonest trading. In terms of value, British PPI mis-selling dwarfs naughty CE marks. I don't know how you go about buying stuff, but most of the CE marked stuff in my house appears to be genuine. How many examples of fake CE marks can you find in your home? (I'd expect you to find several, all of them on cheap tat, unless you've been very unlucky. I'll be surprised if you can find a major item bought in the UK that's a dud.)

I'm certain that some Chinese tools have been delivered in the past with bad documentation, and that it still happens. But I can confirm that the 'certificates' that came with my Warco Lathe and Mill both claimed numbers I was able to confirm by measurement. (To be pedantic I found the lathe's chuck run out to be slightly better than the certificate claimed.) But this proves nothing about the documentation provided with Chinese machines in general!

Chinese manufacturing is typical of the industrial development everywhere. Germany and Birmingham were once both notorious for cheap rubbish and false claims, but it's a phase that doesn't last. It allows people to make a start, but it's not sustainable – there are better ways of making money. China's economy is 'growing up' and tat will be soon be made somewhere else.

Although Chinese industrial activity and dodgy CE marks don't worry me much, their policy in other spheres does. Spratly Islands is but one example; I won't say more, it's politics.

Dave

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

As all the machines that were received or on offer have all gone from ARC Euro Trade I have started this thread to post my learning curve with these machines and hope that the other new owners will post what they are doing too.

J.

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Posted by not done it yet on 06/04/2019 10:45:31:

Ian off ill? Just not good enough Shouldn't be allowed!

Is Brett the young lad on the counter last time I was visiting?

Seriously, I hope Ian is soon back, firing on all cylinders.

As I see it, communication with the supplier is the most important bit, with any problems such as this and the best course of action initially. Arc can decide/advise/agree on the best course of remedial action – likely a more cost effective route (if small parts actually needed replacement would to do it in situ) rather than returning the whole item to the supplier.

Unscrewing a knob, which appears to need no tools for removal, does not seem (to me) )to be any reason for denial of warranty!

Brett will point himself out when you visit next … Ian is back today.

If one sees this exploaded parts diagram, the issue was relating to 'the fit' of part 16 onto shaft 17 which is a little tight.

Ketan at ARC

[Bjørn ClausenParticipant @bjornclausen17962]

Just been talking to Arceurotrade. They have been very helpfull. I got instructions to remove the fine feed and lubricate it. The machine is OK but for anyone else having the same problems. The machine just need breaking in. I also got the SX2p from ARC – that machine is more loose from start.

So i will let the chips fly.

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

New one on me; have never used oil on Morse tapers in all of my 55 yrs in the engineering industry, always checked tapers for burrs, embedded grit, scores, if all good then only wiped clean then pushed together. IIRC you can get a taper cleaner from ArcEuro / Chronos, usual disclaimer.

George.

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

I just used B16 as all my chucks seem to be B16, I think Arc Euro also sells some obscure drilling adapters, I think they even had a female MT2 to straight shank for using MT2 drill bits in a cordless drill.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Ian Bradley 7 on 02/04/2019 13:40:03:

Thank for all your replies guys you put my mind at rest. Now I have seen 7 x 12 and 7 x 14 on Ebay from the Czech republic, is this a risky purchase ? where did you guys source your lathes ? Ian.

Just now is a bad time to buy from any member of the European Union, Iceland, Lichtenstein, or Norway.

The UK voted to leave the EU in June 2106 and is committed to exit in 10 days time. Unfortunately Parliament is struggling to agree terms and there is currently no agreement – all the exit options have been rejected.

This may result in a 'No Deal Exit' on the 12th. If 'No Deal' is executed, then all current trade arrangements with the EU become undefined. This effects consumer protection, payments and liability for tax. With one exception, which has been firmly rejected, the other options are unclear too.

At present the government cannot provide any detail, rather it puts the onus on purchasers to check: government advice can be read in a few minutes here. At the moment buying from a clearly British supplier is much less risky.

The problem is uncertainty – no-one knows what the rules are. Uncomfortably, whilst the relationship with the EU is getting most attention, 34 of 40 other international trade arrangements have also failed to agree on time.

Europeans and other nations wishing to buy British Goods and Services face a mirror image of the same issues.

In any case I'd advise against buying cheap lathes direct from the Far East or any vendor without a track record, here or in Europe. Yes you can save money, but if you happen to get a dud from a fly-by-night, all the advantages of buying locally under UK Consumer Law from a seller with a valued reputation are missing. You're on your own, and a cross-border dispute will be worse until the practical consequences of Brexit are nailed down.

Most of my stuff came from Warco and ArcEuro.

Dave

Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 02/04/2019 16:00:11

[Frances IoMParticipant @francesiom58905]

who pays for a return to sender if faulty ?

personally if you are around Manchester/Liverpool call in at Chester tools, in Midlands ARC-euro, in SW London area Warco or look at Axminster who have a few branches – all are usually happy to show you their wares – buying from a supplier in UK makes resolving any problems considerably easier

[magpieParticipant @magpie]

I am a volunteer at Crewe Men in Sheds whose job it is to keep an eye on new chaps, and help them to learn new skills. Some years ago the shed bought a mini lathe from Arc Euro for the blokes to learn metal turning, it's mostly woodwork at the shed. The lathe has had the kind of treatment that would make a skilled toolmaker weep, but to my great surprise it is still in good working order and more than capable of turning out good work by the less "ham fisted" members of the shed.

Dek.

[Steve WithnellParticipant @stevewithnell34426]

I'm looking to buy a new touch screen as my Mach 3 control panel (I don't have Mach 3 to play with yet). Do 16:9 or 4:3 aspect ratio screens work best?

Like many of us, I don't have acres of space so thinking a 12 or 15" panel is enough…

I'll be using the locked down version of Mach3 as provided by ArcEurotrade.

Best regards

Steve

Will they fit Chester DB10 Super?