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[Chris BarryParticipant @chrisbarry]

chrisBusy week in the workshop, got the new coolant pump from arceuro plumbed into the lathe, welded up a new trolley for a wood working Bandsaw donated to by a friend and making some new racking for metal out of some gutter pieces. Just a picture of the trolley awaiting a shelf and painting (plus a good clean in the workshop). The tidy actually started after the picture was taken.

Cheers

Chris

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Trouble with sets is they don't always contain what you want, so you have to be a bit careful. The last set I bought uses 4 different inserts, has no left-handed tool, and has 3 hefty boring bars I'm unlikely to use. I managed to identify the inserts it uses but it wasn't easy.

If I were you, I'd follow Iain's advice and buy individual holders from Arc; they helpfully stock the range of holders most likely suit hobbyists and inserts to fit them, making it easier to choose the right combinations. Arc also sell inserts that fit their holders. Not everyone else does!

Have a look at this page . Arc summarise what they sell. I'd suggest:

• An SCLC-R 95° holder, taking a rhombic insert. This is the most useful general purpose turning tool and it carries the most useful general purpose insert. It can face and turn.
• An SCLC-L 95° holder. This tool is the left-handed version of the SCLR-R, that is it cuts from left to right. I don't use mine very often, but …
• An An SSDC-N 45° holder taking a square insert. Square insert are stronger than rhombics and are good for roughing out. They face and turn (right/left and left/right) but they cannot cut into a corner. They are excellent for putting chamfers on turned work. This is my second most used tool.
• A parting/grooving tool. Various on offer from ARC. I've settled on the NCIH blade type which uses GTN inserts. Parting off can be a challenge! Whatever tool you use, it will work better in a rear tool-post.
• For boring internal holes, one or more S-SCLC-R 95° boring bars in different diameters. They take the same insert as the SCLC-R 95° and the SCLC-L 95°. I own two: a small one to fit in small holes, and a bigger one for boring larger holes. A small boring bar will cut big holes, but they tend to flex. So it's better to use bigger boring bars on bigger holes, but not essential.

Tool-holder Sizes. I would buy one size down from your tool-holder and shim it to height. (ie. buy 10mm holders to fit a 12mm tool-post)

Arc inserts & holders vs Sumitomo? Sumitomo are 'better' but more expensive. For what it's worth I'm using Arc holders and inserts and – for hobby use – not had a problem with them. Silver inserts are better for non-ferrous metals, but I find the yellow ones usually work OK.

One thing I can't find in the Arc range are threading holders and inserts. Threading inserts are 'special' in that they have an angled point to match the thread type (metric and imperial are different angles), and come sized to suit the thread. (You can't cut big deep threads with a tiny insert.)

Arc also carry a decent HSS set; this has one each of common tools including threading. I use mine quite often despite mainly being an insert fan.

Dave

PS No connection with Arc, I just think they've made it easier to buy inserts and holders than the competition.

[Iain DownsParticipant @iaindowns78295]

Might I suggest that you consider one of the mainstream providers? Certainly as a starting point. You will find good descriptions and a known quality. As an example (no connection, but very happy customer) ARC have a good range.

If you get one or two from such a source and get started, you can look to eBay later on.

Iain

[Andrew TinsleyParticipant @andrewtinsley63637]

Wow! This has degenerated into a bit of a mess. New Chinese or old Myford was I think the question! This implies that the Chinese lathe is the same size as the Myford.

In my limited opinion, then IF you can get a good Myford at the RIGHT price go for a Myford. If not go for a Chinese lathe. If you want real versatility then a Myford wins, so much stuff available. If you want just simple turning, then go Chinese lathe.

Be very careful which supplier of Chinese lathes you go to. There a lot that offer similar lathes and they are not ALL to the same quality. For a slighty smaller lathe than the Myford. Then go to Arc Eurotrade. for a Myford equivalent, I would use Warco.

Ignore all the B/S about the Myford being flimsy, a similar sized Chinese lathe won't be much better! People are talking Colchester and Harrison etc. Sure, these a much bigger lathes and built for industrial use. They are much sturdier than a Myford or similar sized Chinese lathe. BUT they are much bigger so you would expect them to be sturdier! More to the point they are NOT the size you want!

There are a lot of clapped out Myfords around at a premium prices. Don't buy a Myford unless you can use it before buying and more to the point know what you are looking for. If you don't, then take someone with you who does! If this isn't possible, then buy Chinese. Simple isn't it?

Andrew.

[MadMikeParticipant @madmike]

I sold my Myford ML7, a great machine but showing its age, and bought a Myford refurbed 254S that had never been used. A truly great machine. Better than the old style machines and it has a 10 inch capacity, hence the 254 reference. When I wanted a milling machine however I decided that all of the older traditional machines were far too large for my garage so I bought a brand new Seig from ArcEuro. Another great machine from a great company. Oh yes most of my work involves machining stainless and both machine perform magnificently.

[NigeParticipant @nige81730]

I want to be able to make the sort of models that Stuarts provide kits for. I am narrowing down the choice of milling machine and just querying the range of bed travel I am likely to need to be able to manage this sort of work. I have my eye on the Sieg SX3 but would go smaller if I could still manage that sort of work. The SX3 has 145mm of cross travel and 360mm longitudal travel. Will be trying to get some 'hands on' at the show on Saturday and hoping arceurotrade will be there

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Robbo on 16/10/2017 23:37:07:

As your M12 is quite a hefty size you might like to consider a set of 3 serial taps, where they actually vary in size from no 1 thru no 3. Like these **LINK** These make it much easier to tap the larger threads. Plenty of cutting lubricant makes a big difference too.

A normal set of three taps only vary in the length of the taper on the taps

Possibly surprisingly but the 'economy' Metric HSS sets are usually serial type.

Look for one ring on the shank of the first tap, two on the second and none on the finishing tap.

Neil

[RobboParticipant @robbo]

As your M12 is quite a hefty size you might like to consider a set of 3 serial taps, where they actually vary in size from no 1 thru no 3. Like these **LINK** These make it much easier to tap the larger threads. Plenty of cutting lubricant makes a big difference too.

A normal set of three taps only vary in the length of the taper on the taps

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

I was going to make the same point as Brian. I think a mini-lathe from Warco, ArcEuroTrade or one of the other suppliers will do what you want. Get one with a brushless motor if you can.

A minilathe is a bit too heavy for me to lift from floor level on to a bench. Although I've always been a weakling I could have done it in my mid 50's but not now. No problem moving one if you have help, it's an easy two person lift. The lathe has rubber feet and will sit on a table; you don't have to bolt it down, so transportable rather than portable.

Depends of course how fit you are: I think Infantrymen routinely march 20 miles carrying rather more weight than a mini-lathe. In their position I'd be begging an officer to put me out of my misery by shooting me!

Dave

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Hi Colin

Tailstock chuck / arbor ( and lots of other "stuff" ) see HERE

Good luck with your " swarf making" activities!

Norman

[Keith FoxParticipant @keithfox28514]

I recently bought a Sieg SC4 lathe from Axminster. I have no regrets in buying it, but having seen the article and advert for the SC4 from Arceurotrade, which was significantly cheaper than mine, was wondering if there was any difference between them. I am aware that often similar machines from the same manufacturer are made to a price and of slightly different specifications, but was wondering if this was the case with the Sieg SC4 lathes available in the UK.

Keith

[John RuddParticipant @johnrudd16576]

Gordon,

I used the scales from Arc, the ones with the remote display….

http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Measurement/Digital-Readouts-with-Dedicated-Remote-Display/Digital-Readout-Bars-with-Dedicated-Remote-Display

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

If you are not sure what the Wedges mentioned above should look like then this will give you an idea. Flat on one side tapered on the other, the two tapered faces bear against each other.

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

HasBean – looks good enough for the likes of me! I have to say, fitting a DRO to my milling machine absolutely transformed it in terms of both accuracy and speed of working. You can now place holes and features within a tiny fraction of hitherto, with a certainty that means you don't have to measure 5 times, cross your fingers and cut twice.

If you use an edge finder (type C), a DRO makes feature location quick and easy. Mine is 4mm diameter, so I just zero the scale and subtract 2mm from the reading to set the scale zero on an edge. Similarly, finding the centre of a hole or body using the "1/2" function is a real time saver. Have to admit I rarely never use the bolt centre or curve cutting features.

I was going to say "next get a power feed" but it looks as if you may have one already.

Murray

[Gordon WParticipant @gordonw]

One of the first mods I made to my chester was fit a handwheel to the leadscrew. It is an easy job IF the screw will go thru. the mandrel. Turn bit of steel to fit a handle and drill the leadscrew to suit. Glue with araldite or similar. I used a handle from Arceuro and marked lines on the boss ,using a gear as a divider. Does not need super accuracy. I always have the gear train out of mesh except when using it.

[Jon GibbsParticipant @jongibbs59756]

The wheels Harold uses are AlOx which are perfect for HSS.

If you want to sharpen carbide though it's pretty straight forward to apply the same principles to a set of diamond wheels of similar diameter such as those from ArcEuroTrade here http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Diamond-Tools/Diamond-Grinding-Wheels

HTH

Jon

Edited By Jon Gibbs on 10/10/2017 19:35:12

[Steve BowerParticipant @stevebower42241]

Just calling as I see it. Can always modify! Just looking for the handles.

[edit]

That Arc Euro looks just the job. I'll have to turn the shaft down, unless there are any square drive options

Edited By Steve Bower on 08/10/2017 22:08:12

[roy entwistleParticipant @royentwistle24699]

I seem to remember that Arceuro sold them. Not too sure as can't get to my catalogue just now

Roy

[Michael BriggsParticipant @michaelbriggs82422]

For pcd's use your DRO, hex milling : **LINK**

[MuzzerParticipant @muzzer]

Friday evening I thought it was time to clean the CNC machine, given that it was piled high with swarf. One thing led to another and I took it to its illogical conclusion ie ended up dismantling the machine vise. It seems to be a weekend for vise dismantling, so I am in good company.

This is a Chinese Kurt clone I bought in Canada a few years back. Some parts are distinctly sub par, like the "spherical" seat element and the ball thrust bearing which seems to be made of unhardened Chinesium. As well as ending up in a concave shape, the inner race has disintegrated so my balls dropped(!) when I loosened the leadscrew collar. I've ordered what I believe to be a suitable replacement from Arc Euro and will be adding a thrust collar to help the thing to cope better.

Murray

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Arceurotrade used to list a similar vice but seem to have dropped it in catalogue 7, they listed it at £56 in cat 6 which was 2009.

Mike

[Keith FoxParticipant @keithfox28514]

Have you considered the Sieg SC4. Arceurotrade have a bundle advertised in the latest edition of Model Engineers' Workshop for £1,500. I would have considered it myself if I hadn't just bought 1 from Axminster.

I am just a beginner, but it does seem like a good lathe to me.

Keith

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

That is the correct shape for the nut. It allows you to snap the collet into the nut as shown here which will also allow the nut to pull the collet out of the taper in the holder. When snapped into position the end of the collet will be flush with the nut at it's largest size and protrude a little when squashed down.

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Posted by Ian Skeldon 2 on 05/10/2017 21:29:23:

@Ketan

I have bought items from you (well Arc Eurotrade to be precise) and never had any problems, however as a customer I do prefer (now) to source items from suppliers using DPD as they will deliver to a nominated shop or other place chosen from their network. In real terms, for me it means I can order something late in the evening after work, then go onto interweb thingy and arrange for it to be delivered to the off licence half a mile away. I can then call into said off licence up until 10 pm whenever it's conveiniant. Now if parcel force can start to offer that kind of service it will really make for a level playing field.

Best regards,

Ian

Agreed Ian,

At present, in my opinion, Parcelforce policy is a little unclear for failed delivery. They will try to re-deliver, deliver to a local post office, or Parcelforce depot, for one to collect, or return to sender. However, they lack clarity on this subject. This was a concern when we switched to Parcelforce, however, we have seen very few negative events arising from this so far. It would still be a good idea if they could deliver to shops/supermarkets which work late, for customers to collect in the evenings…. or through the night in case of certain supermarkets.

Ketan at ARC.

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Posted by Meunier on 05/10/2017 20:21:11:

Made an order to ARC 16:30BST Monday, shipped FedEx Tuesday p.m and arrived S.W.France 14:00 Wednesday.
Sent Arc a courtesy email to say thanks for great service.
DaveD

Thanks Dave,

For Europe we use a combination of tracked post, Parcelforce and Fedex, based on various factors to include value, weight, destination. Under normal circumstances, your order would have been shipped through tracked post or Parcelforce based on weight and value. However, Parcelforce informed us of on/off strikes in France during the past two weeks, so we shipped through Fedex pack service, which is supposed to be fast for small weights, upto 2.5kg.

Whilst writing, just received this update from Parcelforce:

'French drivers have finished their strike around the Port of Calais now, but there are still extensive delays around Calais and the Channel Tunnel and further disruption is expected.

There continues to be delays of up to 36 hours for parcels and import parcels will also be subject to delays of up to 24 hours. This is expected to return to normal after 8^th October.'

Ketan at ARC.