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  • #284861
    Dave Cee
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      @davecee80929

      Hi

      I have tried doing a search on here but the search function seems next to useless.

      I am torn between doing this….

      https://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDiY_w_Rrv0

      Or trying to make something along the lines of this…

      http://www.gadgetbuilder.com/DrillSharp.html

      I doubt if I email John he would just send me the plans though.

      Cheers for looking

       

      Dave.

      Edited By Dave Cee on 18/02/2017 13:42:00

      Edited By Dave Cee on 18/02/2017 13:42:36

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      #18417
      Dave Cee
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        @davecee80929
        #284867
        Vic
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          @vic

          I was hoping someone would come up with a drill sharpening system using an ER32 collet block. Its such an obvious starting point IMO.

          #284868
          Neil Wyatt
          Moderator
            @neilwyatt

            Try the google search box on the home page.

            Neil

            #284869
            Dave Cee
            Participant
              @davecee80929

              Thanks Neil!

              That's better

              #284872
              Dave Cee
              Participant
                @davecee80929

                Just bought this Dead Link

                The info should be on there somewhere.. if not that is all worth having anyway.

                 

                 

                Edited By JasonB on 18/02/2017 17:17:06

                #284873
                David Colwill
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                  @davidcolwill19261
                  Posted by Dave Cee on 18/02/2017 14:52:37:

                  Just bought this Dead Link

                  The info should be on there somewhere.. if not that is all worth having anyway.

                   

                   

                  I don't think Neil is going to like that!

                  David.

                  Edited By JasonB on 18/02/2017 17:17:36

                  #284874
                  Michael Gilligan
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                    @michaelgilligan61133

                    dont know … Very strange

                    Copyright issues aside : They are selling 001-163, but illustrating with pictures of later covers.

                    MichaelG.

                    #284885
                    Dave Cee
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                      @davecee80929
                      Posted by David Colwill on 18/02/2017 15:01:30:

                      Posted by Dave Cee on 18/02/2017 14:52:37:

                      Just bought this Dead Link

                      The info should be on there somewhere.. if not that is all worth having anyway.

                       

                       

                      I don't think Neil is going to like that!

                      David.

                      Ok Sorry

                      Close the thread please someone.

                      Thanks

                       

                      Dave.

                      Edited By JasonB on 18/02/2017 17:18:03

                      #284887
                      John Baron
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                        @johnbaron31275

                        Hi Dave,

                        Drop John Moran an Email, he is very helpful. I've built the 4-6 facet drill sharpener and I'm very happy with it. I also made a jig to sharpen slot drils and end mills.

                        It is a bit fiddly to set up, but once you have got your head around it, it becomes very obvious.

                        I've just looked on the Gadget Builder web site and discovered that my grinder is pictured there, near the bottom of the page.

                         

                        Edited By John Baron on 18/02/2017 16:58:41

                        #284889
                        Dave Cee
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                          @davecee80929

                          Thanks John.

                          And apologies to all for the ebay link I posted .. just wasn't thinking.

                          #284893
                          JasonB
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                            @jasonb
                            Posted by Michael Gilligan on 18/02/2017 15:16:25:

                            dont know … Very strange

                            Copyright issues aside : They are selling 001-163, but illustrating with pictures of later covers.

                            MichaelG.

                             

                            Maybe Having "Faking it" on the cover used gives an idea of the DVDs sourceangry 2

                             

                            I have removed the link but will let the thread remain.

                            Edited By JasonB on 18/02/2017 17:19:43

                            #284895
                            ianj
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                              @ians

                              "I doubt if I email John he would just send me the plans though"

                              I emailed John last year and he sent me the plans,

                              My finished grinder is the last photograph on his web site.

                              Ian

                              #284903
                              Neil Wyatt
                              Moderator
                                @neilwyatt

                                Thanks Jason,

                                Neil

                                #284925
                                Robbo
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                                  @robbo

                                  Regarding the ebay link, I have seen CDs of MEW from several sellers, but they are always nos 1 to 163 which was in May 2010.

                                  Which makes me think the different sellers are the same person. You report the one you see, but the others are still there, meanwhile the seller invents another persona ready for when one of the others is reported.

                                   

                                  Meanwhile, can I direct the OP to MEW no 142 (Sep 2008) where Harold Hall makes a 4-facet drill sharpening jig.  So it is probably also on Harold's website at http://www.homews.co.uk

                                   

                                  Edited By Robbo on 18/02/2017 19:41:16 -missed the "w"s out.

                                  Edited By Robbo on 18/02/2017 19:42:29

                                  #284948
                                  Dave Cee
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                                    @davecee80929

                                    Thanks for all the replies chaps.

                                    I have emailed John also.

                                    Dave.

                                    #285273
                                    Howard Lewis
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                                      @howardlewis46836

                                      If you are unsuccessful, I have an idea that D A G Brown wrote an article, with drawings, on making a jig for 4 Facet Grinding of small diameter drills. Possibly some time ago in M E ?

                                      Howard

                                      #285404
                                      Jon Gibbs
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                                        @jongibbs59756
                                        Posted by Vic on 18/02/2017 14:28:24:

                                        I was hoping someone would come up with a drill sharpening system using an ER32 collet block. Its such an obvious starting point IMO.

                                        Hi Vic,

                                        I made an end mill sharpening fixture based upon an ER32 collet block and use this for 4 facet sharpening of drills and seems to work ok.

                                        The only problem is that to keep overhang to a minimum your only option is to grip the flutes in the collet but it seems to work ok. I've sharpened drills up to 20mm successfully although I'm not sure they still cut precisely on-size.

                                        Jon

                                        #285456
                                        Howard Lewis
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                                          @howardlewis46836

                                          I made an ER25 collet block for sharpening drills on my Worden, using the angled base of the original drill grinding fixture. But it was rather large, and the clamp nut fouled the table, until turned down, so made up an ER20 version. This system needs a small square to be used to set the cutting edge vertical before grinding. The range of collets from 1mm to 13mm suffices for all my drills, Being the ER system, the collets tolerate Imperial, Number, Letter as well as Metric sizes.

                                          Howard

                                          #285595
                                          Gary Wooding
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                                            @garywooding25363

                                            After breaking several #76 drills I used a high power loupe to examine the one remaining and was appalled to see how badly it had been sharpened. Since the broken drills had come from the same supplier, in the same packet, it was no wonder they had broken.

                                            A friend had made D.A.G.Brown's small 4-facet sharpening jig which I borrowed. The newly sharpened drill bored all the remaining 35 holes perfectly, so perfectly that I read the original article, and the subsequent one for medium sized drills, and decided to design a combined jig for both the sizes described by DAGB. This PDF contains the drawings I created for both jigs in one. The basic design is DAGB's, I just combined both sizes into one unit. I also designed a special jig to help saw the small drill holders with a piercing saw instead of using the special tool used by DAGB. I hope you find it useful.

                                            #285599
                                            Ian P
                                            Participant
                                              @ianp

                                              Gary

                                              Thanks for posting the PDF of your version of the jig, it is something I am definitely going to make as I am fed up with sharpening 0.5mm drills freehand! Not having seen the 'DAGB' article though I'm having difficulty 'seeing' what the main body actually looks like.

                                              Are your views on A and B, some sort of isometric representation? The dimensions shown are relative to centrelines but it looks like you have drawn the part rotated in mid air rather than it being a rectangular block sat on a horizontal surface.

                                              It would be great if you could you possibly post a photograph of the jig as it would be a real help.

                                              Ian P

                                              #285600
                                              Ian P
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                                                @ianp

                                                Oops!

                                                I have now seen page 6 of the PDF and all has become clear!

                                                Please ignore my request for a picture.

                                                Ian P

                                                #285602
                                                Gary Wooding
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                                                  @garywooding25363

                                                  The A and B views are not isometric, they are views perpendicular to the faces.The dotted red squares show the horizontal/vertical limits of the faces and pass through the corners of the faces.

                                                  The dotted grey lines show what you could see if the block was transparent.

                                                  #285668
                                                  Fowlers Fury
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                                                    @fowlersfury

                                                    Garry Wooding wrote:-

                                                    "After breaking several #76 drills I used a high power loupe to examine the one remaining and was appalled to see how badly it had been sharpened. Since the broken drills had come from the same supplier……."

                                                    Another source of badly sharpened and therefore badly performing drills are those orange & blue plastic boxes of very small drills on sale at exhibitions. I took a new No.70 drill from such a box and put it under the microscope at x200. The image is poor because of the very small depth of field and getting good top illumination but one wonders just how such drills are "sharpened". It's also revealing to compare cutting edges of carbide inserts at that magnification. For example those of cheap Far Eastern origin to say, manufacturers such as Iscar. Once seen at x200 the obvious difference in performance (and price) is explained.

                                                    no70 x200.jpg

                                                    #285964
                                                    Howard Lewis
                                                    Participant
                                                      @howardlewis46836

                                                      For some reason, my system will only download page 1. After that "There is a problem"

                                                      Any ideas, please?

                                                      Howard

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