
Jens Eirik Skogstad 1
@jenseirikskogstad1
Dust mask from Eastern Europe was made of fabric from asbestos in Soviet era. Wondered how many died to protect against dust with dust mask .. 

Larry Coleman 1
@larrycoleman1
Yes I found the old workshops and factories fascinating.
What did you think about that page on the force of boiler explosions. Three and a half miles would have been a big bang.
One thing you have in the UK & Europe is some of the old machinery has been saved but Australia does not have that history because we convicts have only been here for 200 years.
I would really love to visit the UK one day and visit the museums. Some of the old castles and archeology like Stone Heng must be real spooky. The engenuity invested in some of those old steam pumps would have me gob smacked.
In regards to drilling with that concave drill that works but it dosn't when you have an existing hole or pilot hole.
One thing I found facinating was lead wiping car panels instead of plastic bog. It never rusted out and is not done today.
Larry

Chris Gunn
@chrisgunn36534
Jesse and Roy, do not get too depressed, we make the best aero engines in the world, Rolls Royce Jaguar and Bentley cars, export thousands of land rover, range rovers, minis and Toyotas, make a lot of Europe's Ford engines, leaders in Pharmaceuticals, DNA research, make most of the chips for the worlds mobile phones, world class engineering consultants building bridges, tunnels high rise buildings everywhere. yes we have lost a lot of metal bashing industries, but we are working smarter now, not harder. There is a big shortage of young engineers so that is one thing we need to sort out, and being more positive about what we can do well could encourage them.
Chris Gunn

Bob Brown 1
@bobbrown1
I use ER40 collets on my Boxford AUD (metric) with a back plate like these **LINK** do not think I purchased the chuck from them they are just one supplier for this type.
I do not think there is any thing to be gained in making the chuck yourself as they are not that expensive.
As for run out that is less than 0.01mm which is good enough for me but you need to make sure the collets and holder are clean as a tiny bit if swarf can cause them to run out.
Bob
BTW ER40 will go to 30mm
Edited By Bob Brown 1 on 09/01/2015 08:09:00

Les Jones 1
@lesjones1
Hi Neil,
This information on stepper motors (From the link on Arc Euro's website.) is worth reading.
Les.

Neil Wyatt
@neilwyatt
Something like THIS would probably do the job. I used one out of an old Shurflo shower unit for a small 3 1/2" gauge loco and at 80- watts it can pull me around. Recovered motors from showers will probably need a new front bearing, easily fitted and a couple of quid from Arc Euro.
They have ~7-8 amp stall current so get a supply that can easily deliver that and use a 10A fuse in teh low voltage supply.
Neil

Steve F
@stevef
I you search the web there are various references to ESX25 being equivalent to ER25. These can be bought from Arceurotrade and on Ebay. I dont think i'd buy a set until i tried an ER25 collet to make sure it's ok so only buy 1 to start with.
regards
Steve

Ed Duffner
@edduffner79357
I have the WM180 and unfortunately the cross-slide isn't T-slotted so can't accommodate a rear toolpost as it is.
I've tried the indexable parting tool from a set of TC cutting tools and the bit shattered when trying to part what I think was some 20mm phosphor bronze. I think that was due to about 15° positive rake and it was also difficult in ally and steel, very discouraging.
I changed the supplied 4-way toolpost to one from Arc, the QCTP Model 100 and can part quite happily with that using an HSS parting blade. Some type of cutting fluid or oil is required. So far the largest bar I've worked with and parted is 1.75". The toolpost had to be modified to sit down over the boss which is cast into the compound slide and a new steel sleeve turned.
David, something you could do is to turn (or mill) a thick spacer to fit under your toolpost to bring the inverted parting tool up to height, leaving a bit for shims if required.
Here's a Youtube video I found a while back showing parting on the WM180. Not my video and a different toolpost but some good instruction.
Regards,
Ed.
Edited By Ed Duffner on 03/01/2015 10:08:48

Ian S C
@iansc
There is usually a gap between the top of the chuck, and the bottom of the quill, in that gap you will see the diameter of the top of the taper, you will then know which size of taper wedge to get from one of the engineering suppliers, Warco, Arceuro Trade, or similar. Anyone who sells drill chucks, and machines to put them on.
Ian S C

Bikepete
@bikepete
The chuck is likely mounted on a taper, rather than a thread. Typically it'll be a Morse 2 socket in the spindle, into which an adaptor fits with a Jacobs taper on the other end to mount the chuck – see e.g. here. For removal of the adaptor from the spindle there may be provision for a drift to go in from the side of the quill, while for getting the chuck off the adaptor a set of wedges may be necessary – both as per e.g. here.
Is it definitely 'Saunders' BTW? Not familiar with it and best google could see was a 'Sanders' as per this forum post. Might be helpful to post a picture of it and a close-up of the chuck/quill area for further advice.

daz nosworthy
@daznosworthy
Hi All, as title my seig x3 has died, came out to use as usual and nothing? Green power light is on, fuse not blown, its the electronic speed control version, no blue light on speed control, weird cos the mc was off at the estop. Blew the house trip, not the mc or plug or main plug???
Took the back off only got power on line L1 from the emi filter not N1 took the board out Abd can only see min burn mark at the 10 pin plug for the speed reader input
Totally baffled?? Any ideas?? Arc euro have new PCB but dont know where to start
Cheers, Daz

Michael Gilligan
@michaelgilligan61133
Posted by Brian John on 27/12/2014 03:15:13:
Michael : yes, according to Little Machine shop 1/4'' is correct but if you look at the Arc Euro website they say the Sieg C0 will accept 4mm, 6mm and 8mm. There is a table half way down the page :
**LINK**
.
Brian.
That is exactly why I gave you the link.
The toolpost on the optional top-slide is [necessarily] smaller capacity than the cross-slide mounted one, on the standard lathe. [i.e. both statements regarding capacity are "true"]
You had previously expressed an interest in the top-slide; so I thought it might be worth noting.
MichaelG.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 27/12/2014 08:23:30

Brian John
@brianjohn93961
Michael : yes, according to Little Machine shop 1/4'' is correct but if you look at the Arc Euro website they say the Sieg C0 will accept 4mm, 6mm and 8mm. There is a table half way down the page :
**LINK**
Anyway, I will go with 6mm HSS. They are cheap enough from Arc Euro and I need to buy some taps and dies from them anyway. As far as I can see Ausee does not have any HSS lathe cutting tools so I will have to pay the postage from the UK.
Edited By Brian John on 27/12/2014 03:15:53
Edited By Brian John on 27/12/2014 03:16:23

Ketan Swali
@ketanswali79440
Brian,
General reasons as Neil, Jason and some others have said. This the cheapest, easiest and correct option for you to start with. i.e. HSS 6mm. You can start with the most useful pre-made shapes in the two piece set, or you can buy the larger 6mm pre-made shapes set, depending on what you want to do. Once you get the idea, you can make your own shapes using blanks, which is the most cost effective option. Everyone on this thread has given you good guidance in this respect.
In terms of carbide, there is a high probability that you will chip a brazed carbide tool as yours will be a beginners approach, and you will chuck the tool in the bin thereafter because you cannot re-sharpen them. If you do go down this road (which I suggest you to avoid at this stage), then do invest in diamond credit card stone or diamond mini-stone with handle, similar to the ones to be found here:
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Diamond-Tools/Diamond-Stones
Use the finest stone to 'slightly smooth off' (don't know the correct engineering terminology) the sharp point of the brazed carbide tool, before you start to use it.
If you use a carbide insert tool, make sure you buy one which has a pocket in the tool holder, in which the insert will sit, rather than a holder where the insert just sits in the holder – flat on one of its side. Ideally, for your application, it does not really matter too much if you buy a good quality CCMT or better CCGT insert, but try to buy an insert which has a greater tip radius – such as 0.4mm to 0.8mm, as smaller radius tips could chip easily because yours is a small hobby lathe with limited maximum speed and rigidity.
Ketan at ARC

Ketan Swali
@ketanswali79440
Brian,
Get these from http://www.ausee.com.au
http://www.ausee.com.au/shop/item.aspx?itemid=105 which is a parting off tool and blade
and ask him to get you:
6mm Spare HSS Toolbits 6x6x60mm (2pc Set) 060-320-00900 which is on this page of ARCs website:
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machines-Accessories/Lathes/C0-Baby-Lathe/C0-Baby-Lathe-Cutting-Tools
Alternatively you can buy the above from ARC, but handling and carriage to your destination is expensive.
Ketan at ARC.

Bob Brown 1
@bobbrown1
here you go **LINK** amongst others
Bob

Thor 🇳🇴
@thor
Hi Ian,
The thread that holds the chuck differ from one lathe to another. The Myford ML7 uses 1 1/8 x 12 TPI (with MT 2 in the spindle), the 10" Atlas seem to have 1.5" x 8 TPI NF (with MT 3). You can get MT 3 collets that should fit the 10" Halifax.
Thor

Brian John
@brianjohn93961
Okay, HSS it is. I see that Arceuro have a set at a good price.
What about a compound slide ? That looks useful too or would this just sit in drawer unused ?
**LINK**

Michael Gilligan
@michaelgilligan61133
Brian,
As Norman says !
Be aware though, that the C0 attachment is an unusual design, and that it may not come with instructions.
It's worth looking at the picture on Arc's site, to see what's involved.
MichaelG.

Another JohnS
@anotherjohns
Ketan;
If
a) Showing your face and "glad handing" is important (which it is)
b) Moving stock from your store to a show is expensive in many ways:
why not take the smallest booth you can? Bring your catalogues, a computer for ordering on-line, even a small mill or something solely for display. (or at a discount if someone wants to cart it home for you at the end of the show)
It seems like everyone is understanding that, due to spiralling costs and diminishing profits, that these large shows must change.
You seem like a personable chap, I'm sure that the face to face that you (and, any of your competitors) bring to the show would result in people treating your company more as a "friend" than "just another on-line store"
Walk around with an ARC Eurotrade tee shirt on, make them colourful, and even give some away to anyone who orders something fairly large from your at-show internet tied-computer system.
See you at the next MEX – JohnS, Canada. 

Mike Poole
@mikepoole82104
Ketan from Arceurotrade explained on this forum why he has withdrawn exhibitions and I expect thing are much the same for the other trade suppliers to our hobby. Just as the High Street and Pubs are dieing the suppliers to our hobby are changing. I bought my Myford on eBay and was more than happy with the price and condition, I bought a VMC mill from Warco after research on the Internet viewing at shows and finally visiting their showroom and discussing with Mr Warren my requirements in a less frantic situation than a show. With specialist forums available there is a vast pool of knowledge and experience to help make a good decision. I think supply of tools and materials is better now than it ever has been, without leaving my seat I can view good quality photos of my next purchase, order from my chosen supplier and it arrives in a few days. In the last ten years I have attended most of the model engineering shows in London the midland show most years and abou six Harrogate shows and one Bristol show. I think the model aspect of the shows has held up very well but there is no doubt traders are not there in the force they used to be. I went to Sandown on the Saturday this year and it felt quiet this year, definitely not the crush around stands and stalls. It is nice to see the models as it brings the drawings to life if you are building something that is being displayed.
I would think the Internet has had no small part to play in the changes to the hobby but the future generations of model engineers are going to grow up with the Internet and have no fear of forums or online purchasing. The Internet is perfect for male shopping as we know what we want before we shop so to not have to get in the car and drive to an extortionate car park and queue to buy what you want, a few clicks and its on its way.
Mike

magpie
@magpie
ArcEuro was one of the first to stop attending the shows, and Ketan has explained his reasons for no going many times on this forum. It would seem that the main reason is cost of stand space for which the venue owners / organisers take the blame. However no one has yet mentioned the cost of the RATES on venues which is also a major factor in most of the empty shops in the high street. Just a thought !!
Cheers Derek.
P.S. Also the VERY high cost of heating and lighting ?

FMES
@fmes
Posted by terry callaghan on 22/12/2014 20:58:51:
. lads followed their dads. now all they follow is the dole lane. sad very sad.
I think one possibility is that the 'Lads' don't want to move away from their 'Dads'
Most of our apprentices come from the other ends of the country and some from as far as Europe.
I agree that the days of shipbuilding and the like have ended, but things have moved on and there are still many that want to make a career out of modern engineering.
Some of these guys (and gals) are just sixteen and to leave family and friends in search of a career must be one hell of a wrench and should be applauded.
No dole lane for them.

Bazyle
@bazyle
I think the British situation is more a result of the retention of the monarchy and the 'old order' preventing the rise of people based on their capability during the 19th century when the rest of Europe and the world were having revoulutions.
Institution based protectionism or 'closed shops' is a very bad thing however. We were under that yoke in the 16th century withtthe Guilds, then again in the 20th with the Uniions and now it is built on being built on 'Institutions' which prevent labour mobility and diversification.
However that writer back in 1921 had it right. Wish I'd been a Banker.

Gray62
@gray62
Neil, Arc-Euro sell a couple of flip top oilers in 6mm and 8mm
About 2/3rds down on this page