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  • #28365
    BOB BLACKSHAW 1
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      #564559
      BOB BLACKSHAW 1
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        @bobblackshaw1

        Is there a scam on this forum, main page advert 15% off custom parts made. There is a spelling mistake and a flashing arrow pointing to a discount code. I am using a android phone when visiting the forum.

        Bob

        #564563
        Michael Gilligan
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          @michaelgilligan61133

          Please forgive my ignorance of such matters, Bob :

          … what exactly made you think it might be a scam?

          MichaelG.

          #564565
          Ian Parkin
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            @ianparkin39383

            I cant see anything wrong with it….just a company scouting for business

            #564570
            BOB BLACKSHAW 1
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              @bobblackshaw1

              Why I thought it could be a scam is the spelling for modeling was incorrect plus the pointy arrow, Ive been caught out in the past by a pointy arrow and have never clicked on one since. Also scams from BT via e-mail on my computer there sites have been convincing so Im very wary of sites that look suspicions. Sorry if i made a mistake here, I dont like pointy arrows.

              Bob

              #564573
              Ian Parkin
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                @ianparkin39383

                Bob I didn’t see your spelling mistake at all i just saw model…engineering…. modeleng

                #564576
                John Hinkley
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                  @johnhinkley26699

                  The use of "MODELENG" as a code is a common practice for businesses. By using different, discrete codes, depending on where they place their advertisements, it allows them to track the effectiveness of their advertising placement.

                  Ian, I assumed that Bob is based in the USA as he has used their spelling of modeling and not the usual English modelling. His profile suggests otherwise, though, without specifically stating a country of residence.

                  John

                  #564577
                  BOB BLACKSHAW 1
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                    @bobblackshaw1

                    I suppose its how you look at words, MODELENG on the advert looked incorrect,but I can see it as a abbreviation,I made a mistake, better to be safe than sorry.

                    Bob

                    #564578
                    Tony Pratt 1
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                      @tonypratt1

                      Location is China.wink

                      Tony

                      #564589
                      Nigel Graham 2
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                        @nigelgraham2

                        I see you one you mean. It is actually running alongside this very panel as I type!

                        The arrow is reciprocating across the [Get Instant Quote] button, above which is Using coupon code: MODELENG.

                        The word is quite clearly a telegrammatic code, and I don't see it as dishonest – though my own abbreviation usually omits the "EL".

                        What is not clear, is who is advertising, but it is RapidDirect and it does eem genuine. There are no obvious walls between the ads though, and this one shares the same white rectangle as a rather irritating, rapidly-circulating list of 4 or 5 other firms.

                        (I find that turnover annoying. I know it allows exposure to many suppliers in a compact space, but I would prefer a slower rate. The 15% OFF slogan bouncing about as it does, is worse.)

                        +++

                        I took a calculated risk, assuming this site's publishers do verify the probity of their advertisers, and pressed the Quote button. It opened the home-page for a sheet-metal fabricating and CAD/CAM company in China, and its web-site gives a full postal address. Obtaining an "Instant Quote" is not of course instant, but some steps beyond that. I did not explore the site further.

                        Its intended customers are probably mass-production trade customers supplying it with the appropriate drawing-files identifying the part, one hopes, only by a generic name like "Bracket" and opaque part-number! That it advertises on a site catering mainly for amateur engineers is rather suprising, but may reflect RapidDirect not really understanding that point.

                        They are not the only one. I have received many direct, unsolicited, e-post advertisements for various products or services. .Although I treat all as hazardous and some are very suspicious indeed, some may be from genuine entrepeneurs who don't really understand their foreign markets but cast their nets as widely as possible.

                        '

                        A point on the spelling (modeling / modelling):

                        The residents of many countries for whom English is their second language, tend to learn American, not English, and often affect a generic US accent in speech! That, I was told by an English, English-teacher working in Sweden, is the Hollywood effect: using sub-titled films and TV shows mainly from the USA, as informal exercises. And of course the American-run Internet. Just don't tell President Xi!

                        (I'm not sure what the locals made of sub-titled, British TV soap Brookside I once saw in a cafe in Norway…..)

                        Edited By Nigel Graham 2 on 28/09/2021 11:27:45

                        #564593
                        Bill Phinn
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                          @billphinn90025

                          Nigel Graham 2:

                          "That it advertises on a site catering mainly for amateur engineers is rather suprising, but may reflect RapidDirect not really understanding that point."

                          Very likely to be the case, yes. In China the pursuit of creative hobbies is still almost non-existent, the general thinking being that if work doesn't make you any money why do it at all. Obviously there are very good historical and socio-economic reasons to explain why this attitude prevails there.

                          It's interesting to note the unevenness in the quality of the translations on the site.

                          Some pages are impressively well translated:

                          Surface Finish

                          Others are predictably poor:

                          https://www.rapiddirect.com/about-us/

                          #564595
                          JA
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                            @ja

                            Having an email address as the local secretary of a world wide motorcycle club I get a lot of emails from Chinese firms looking for business. They seem to be sent randomly and I assume most are honest (I do not reply to them). This appears to be common practice.

                            As for American instead of English as a second language, British TV has a major influence. For example "Only Fools and Horses" in the Balkans. Recently this has been heavily reported after the death of John Challis particularly by the BBC.

                            JA

                            #564653
                            Anonymous
                              Posted by Nigel Graham 2 on 28/09/2021 11:16:14:

                              The residents of many countries for whom English is their second language, tend to learn American, not English,

                              American spelling (and word usage) is by no means uncommon from Brits on this forum either. It's creeping in there as it has in Canada.

                              #564662
                              Tony Pratt 1
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                                @tonypratt1

                                Lots of crap spelling on this forum, what's new?

                                Tony

                                #564673
                                Russell Eberhardt
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                                  @russelleberhardt48058
                                  Posted by BOB BLACKSHAW on 28/09/2021 09:11:32:

                                  Why I thought it could be a scam is the spelling for modeling was incorrect plus the pointy arrow, Ive been caught out in the past by a pointy arrow and have never clicked on one since.

                                  The banner with the arrow is just an animated GIF image. Perfectly O.K.

                                  Russell

                                  #564695
                                  Ramon Wilson
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                                    @ramonwilson3

                                    Irrelevant to the above but Bob – you have a PM

                                    Tug

                                    #564703
                                    peak4
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                                      @peak4

                                      Surely the MODELENG isn't a spelling mistake, or an Americanisation.

                                      This forum URL is MODEL-ENGineering.co.uk

                                      Bill

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