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  • #291784
    ChrisB
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      @chrisb35596

      I'm after a mitre saw for cutting steel hollow section, 2 by 2 inch at most, for a lathe and milling bench. The problem is there seem to be an infinite variety of types and prices.

      I'm more inclined towards a TCT blade rather than an abrasive one (don't want too much sparks flying around in my garage!) but the saws I'm seeing all seem to be wood saws. There must be metal cutting saws as the metal cutting blades seem to have lower speed than their wood cutting versions…can someone point me to a good mitre saw without breaking my budget, ( £250 or there abouts) thanks

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      #18468
      ChrisB
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        @chrisb35596

        Suggestions for cutting steel hollow section

        #291785
        Curtis Rutter
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          @curtisrutter61973

          I've got this one which I used mainly for building my workshop bench out of wood but I've cut a couple of pieces of hollow square bar and angle plate albeit very thin and they came out fine

          **LINK**

          Edited By Curtis Rutter on 02/04/2017 12:37:18

          Edited By Curtis Rutter on 02/04/2017 12:37:55

          #291787
          Frances IoM
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            @francesiom58905

            if you have a lathe + a mill then I’d have thought a small metal bandsaw would be the third purchase very shortly afterwards unless you are into pop-eye like muscles from hacksawing – the small ones from chester tools H180 work ok and are under your budget – they will do mitre cuts up of that size + straight cuts to about 90mm dia

            #291792
            John Rudd
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              @johnrudd16576

              Chris,

              Private message sent to you.

              Edited By John Rudd on 02/04/2017 12:53:54

              #291798
              ChrisB
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                @chrisb35596

                No I'm not hacksawing anything! I'm past the "pop-eye like muscles" age, so I'd rather have a machine do it for me! cheeky

                Will check local tool shops for something similar to the one you linked Curtis, from what I can understand from the specs, it's blade is good for steel up to 6mm so it should be fine.

                The bandsaw won't fit in my workshop John, have to share with two cars. Would have been a good addition tho

                #291813
                Neil Wyatt
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                  @neilwyatt

                  Plenty here, using TCT and abrasive blades, but not cheap compared to wood cutting ones.

                  http://www.machinemart.co.uk/c/cut-off-saws/

                  Neil

                  #291823
                  Journeyman
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                    @journeyman

                    Chris, there are small benchtop bandsaws about that take up no more room than a mitre saw. See this **recent thread**

                    John

                    #291835
                    Mike Poole
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                      @mikepoole82104

                      Have you considered the evolution rage saws?

                      Mike

                      #291844
                      Frances IoM
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                        @francesiom58905

                        I bought a ‘rage’ saw prior to the bandsaw mistakenly thinking it would serve same purpose – extremely noisy but also throws out small bits of metal at high speed – needs to be used outside – the bandsaw is quiet, makes just a small neat pile of easily hoovered filings – I mounted mine on a turntable so could fit fairly close to a wall then swung thru 90deg to allow long stock to be cut – the supplied legs work but take up too much valuable space

                        #291846
                        ChrisB
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                          @chrisb35596

                          Hi Mike, Initially I was considering circular type saws, but after going through the thread linked by John I'm not sure anymore. The bandsaw makes sense as I will cut bar stock as well as tube, where as the circular saw will cut tubes only. So now I need to decide which way to go…

                          #291848
                          JohnF
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                            @johnf59703

                            Chris, As Journeyman says I would look at the Femi bandsaw, it will take up less space than a mitre saw and in my opinion do a better job. You can cut up to 4" dia or square it has a very small footprint, is easy to lift onto a shelf for storage if need be. I have had mine for quite a few years and never regretted the purchase. They are available from several suppliers in the UK just google Femi
                            John

                            #291849
                            peak4
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                              @peak4

                              I used to use one of these at work before I retired, Noisy, metal chips everywhere, but fast and reasonably accurate. I regularly used it on heavy duty 2 1/2" angle and unistrut, but be warned replacement blades are quite expensive, so you need to factor that in.

                              egAAOSwzJ5XanZU”>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DeWALT-DW872-355mm-METAL-CUTTING-CHOP-SAW-110v-including-TCT-BLADE-/351766077458?hash=item51e6e46012:gegAAOSwzJ5XanZU

                              #291851
                              JasonB
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                                @jasonb
                                Posted by ChrisB on 02/04/2017 13:53:36:

                                The bandsaw won't fit in my workshop John, have to share with two cars. Would have been a good addition tho

                                My Femi bandsaw has a smaller foot print than my chop saw and is small enough to lift off the bench and put under it if you are tight for room.

                                #291859
                                charadam
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                                  @charadam

                                  I bought the Rage mitre saw a few years back.

                                  It cut all kinds of mild for me, but it was noisy and the chips (red hot and supersonic) inconvenient to say the least.

                                  I lost teeth on 2 blades through hitting inclusions in rebar – with blades a £40 a pop.

                                  It is now fitted with a blade for wood and a 6" bandsaw has taken over the duty.

                                  #291864
                                  ChrisB
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                                    @chrisb35596

                                    Ok, from what I can gather the general consensus is in favor of the bandsaw. I have found a local Maltese shop who imports Femi, so I asked for a couple of quotes for the 780XL and 782XL…will see if it's worth buying local or abroad – my guess is it will be cheaper to get one from Italy. Thanks for all the input given from all.

                                    #291868
                                    Paul Lousick
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                                      @paullousick59116

                                      If you do not have the space for a small bench/floor mounted bandsaw, you could use a hand held bandsaw.

                                      Paul

                                      band saw.jpg

                                      #291876
                                      Neil Wyatt
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                                        @neilwyatt
                                        Posted by Paul Lousick on 02/04/2017 22:09:21:

                                        If you do not have the space for a small bench/floor mounted bandsaw, you could use a hand held bandsaw.

                                        Paul

                                        band saw.jpg

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                                        #291881
                                        peak4
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                                          @peak4

                                          The date's fine Neil, When I was reinforcing the bench that came with our new house I used an older Milford one to cut the 40mm box section to size before welding it together.

                                          They're a cracking but of kit, but they do wander sometimes when the blade starts to get older.

                                          Unfortunately, ready made blades are hard to come by, so I have to braze my own to length 49 1/2", though there are firms who will make custom sizes.

                                          I am/was considering shortening the saw slightly to take the normal sized Makita ones.

                                          Regards

                                          Bill

                                          #291885
                                          JasonB
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                                            @jasonb

                                            You can get a couple of saws of similar design to the Femi that can be removed from the base and used handheld like the one Paul shows I think Flex (Portacable) are one. Downside of a handheld would be you are only hand holding so will not get a consistant angle like you would with a fixed saw.

                                            Flex saw

                                            Edited By JasonB on 03/04/2017 07:57:16

                                            #291886
                                            Michael Gilligan
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                                              @michaelgilligan61133
                                              Posted by Neil Wyatt on 02/04/2017 23:35:43:

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                                              .

                                              Check Milwaukee website:

                                              **LINK**

                                              https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2629-22

                                              MichaelG.

                                              #291894
                                              Paul Lousick
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                                                @paullousick59116

                                                I only have a small bandsaw which can be picked up with one hand and sits on top of a milk crate as a base. Could easily be put away when not needed. One of the best investments which I have made. Will cut thru 90mm square steel. 50×10 steel angle in less than a minute.

                                                Paul.

                                                band saw.jpg

                                                #292035
                                                ChrisB
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                                                  @chrisb35596

                                                  How would this: **LINK** compare to the Femi 780? They look quite similar I think, one thing they mention about the Nebes is it has cast iron pulleys so you can use cutting oil without the blade coming off. Motors on the Nebes is DC inverter brush motor with variable speed control, the Femi is 2 speed but dont know what type of motor.

                                                  #292041
                                                  John Rudd
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                                                    @johnrudd16576

                                                    The Nebes has a dc motor….with electronic speed control…..

                                                    "

                                                    Bandsaw Nebes TM 101

                                                    the real news in the field of portable band saws to
                                                    small size. Fitted with a permanent magnet motor
                                                    which develops high torque at low revs. It offers the user
                                                    Professional a versatile machine, with variable number of revolutions
                                                    and whisper-quiet. The absence of vibrations allows a considerable
                                                    accuracy in cutting and a nearly unlimited service life of the engine itself.
                                                    The constant power variable speed, controlled by a
                                                    newly designed inverter allows you to cut effortlessly
                                                    iron, aluminum, steel and PVC."

                                                    Looking at the alternative, I'd suggest the same motor but with a different method of speed control….

                                                    "The Femi 782XL is designed for dry cutting so no messy lubrication. The 950W motor has digital electronic speed regulator "constant speed" with amperometric limiting device and a 2 speed switch. "

                                                     

                                                    Edited By John Rudd on 04/04/2017 11:47:41

                                                    #292174
                                                    ChrisB
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                                                      @chrisb35596

                                                      Been in contact with the tech person from the liked shop and he confirmed that the NebesTM101 has a brushless induction motor, he emphasized it was brushless so at about 300euro I think I'm going for it

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