Well, if it’s on You Tube it must be real.

did you notice, Zack and your cat have similar facial expressions

Just wait until you need to install a program that isn’t available trough a repository. Or you need to configure something. Sooner or later you’ll end up following some dudes “easy fix” trying to type in 13 lines of arcane incantations that mysteriously doesn’t work because it’s written for another distro.

And this is something that can’t be fixed. Because every distro depends on hundreds of other services and utilities that run exclusively from CLI.

As far as I am concerned, anything is better than having to put up with Microsoft. That includes Linux!

Andrew.

I use Windows and have used Unix. Although DOS is rubbish I am too old to move from Windows (which gets worse with every new version).

My understanding of this topic is that posters are just reinforcing what they want to hear.

Sorry, but bring back FORTRAN 5 and punch cards.

JA

Hello Fulmen,

I have far less problems with Linux than I do with Microsoft Windows. So it would appear that our conclusions are directly opposite to each other.

As we are both happy in our choices, then I suggest we continue with our own preferences. I have no axe to grind and really have no preconceived notions as to what is best. I simply prefer a route of minimum hassle.

Andrew.

Dave,

Alibre won’t run on Linux (many have tried – none quite got there).  It can run on Apple (via Parallels, so still Windows really).

This may change in due course – some background changes happening for version 29 remove nearly all dependencies on Windows only components.  Serious consideration will be given to a Mac version, and if that happens a Linux one might follow.  Don’t hold your breath though – this will take time, if it happens at all.

Problem with SOD’s post is it about as long as it takes to google solutions to Linux installations, only to come out at the end with nothing to say but ‘huh?’

Linux is fine for neophytes if they only want to use the usual tools – wordprocessore, spreadsheet, etc. Go deeper and ply with , for example, Node-Red – yes there are Linus versions, and they don’t work with all, or most; Linux versions, and it takes days on google to get it working, even trolling all the Linux geek forums. Windows…load it, boot it run it.

Can’t toggle pins on windows? Nonsense easy as pie. Windows even runs CNC tools IN REAL TIME with no problems.  Write an executable app with neat MMI/GUI, using the likes of Visual Studio, free and loads on any Windows pc, and load it on your Win_pc – up and running in minutes. Do THAT on Linux while you wade through version incompatibilities , trying to make your executable on Linux an executable, digging through directories and sudo_nano files to kludge where things must be to be found to execute…

Andrew obviously has lived in that world for a decade ( or more..) and so its second nature – but anything short of a decade and folk do not succeed. The story always thrown back is that there is oodles of help and assistance on the web – nonsense again – when your attempted load of an install of something fails, and you have to dig through logs and terminal windows, and resort the the web asking questions – you get a dozen opinions, try to judge which is the most likely applicable  , and copy his instructions and command, enter in the command line, and before you know it, you have tied the machine, and yourself in such a knot, you get the memory stick out and re-install Linux and start again.

It is quite pathetic..

Try unistall an install that went part way and halted…Unless you are a fundi and know all the geek words and commands, its a road to hell. I use linux machines to run node red that gives me internet access to my pendulum interface, my Node-Red interface for my House Control, etc, via internet when I am far from home. That works, once I managed to find a distro that shared life happily with Node Red. I foolishly did a distro update one time , and then node-red no longer worked – out with the memory stick again.  The ONLY reason I use Linux for this is because the incompetent Windows update process cannot be prevented, and that would often hang the machine waiting for someone to type something – a bit difficult when away from home.

That said, I have replaced one of the linux machines again recently with a windows 10 machine, as it no longer does updates!

I am not that ‘green’ with linux – I have used many linux installations, for machine control, HAM radio tools and software, etc – I hate generating executable installs – it is just a pain. I used linux to create a full-on CNC controller of a lathe with a C axis and 8-tool auto tool changer ( I posted hoards about it here..) – using Linux_CNC – it had to be seriously tailored to work with a C axis and Full Kinematics – it worked, but only intensified my attitude towards linux.

The comment that you don’t find windows as servers; all or most are linux – yes, true, and great, but so what??? Its a server, not with a human sitting at the terminal  trying to write software, or debug software, or do cad work, etc.

The is NO cad package on linux that comes close to the stuff on windows, some of which are used on the forum and are free.

The are even fewer CAM packages ( read – zero-) in linux.

I have tried with linux for years, some success, but always with much frustration. I know SOd is a Rough and Ready fellow, but that’s not license to be rude and snarky – , I think its downright rude to tell people ( Fulman) that his socks have fallen down, and all else said – perhaps its your podium that is just to high….I feel Fulmen’s frustration and pain with linux like it was yesterday. He appears to manage with Windows just fine, with all its warts, so I doubt its a lack of intellect on his part that linux is such a pain.

Most users want to use the computer to do things, like cad for a project, or write a book, or do some ham radio stuff – that is the project – with linux, the project is LINUX – before you can do anything that is marginally not run of the mill, you have a whole project just to get linux loaded – if you hit the black screen with cursor on load, the fun already starts… It works fine while it works, but things go wrong so much easier than on windows, and the fix for bad results is not a simple un-install…

It is not a serious windows alternative for the majority, at all.