Eueka! – Has music been redefined?

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27 April 2021 at 14:54 #36378
Roderick Jenkins
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Copyright claim on YouTube video soundtrack
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27 April 2021 at 14:54 #541871
Roderick Jenkins
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This might amuse you. A German speed metal band called "Rage" has claimed that the soundtrack on my YouTube video showing the action of a Eureka form relieving device has infringed their musical copyright. Apparently the "music" to be heard between 1:16 and 2.18 minutes was composed by them. What do you think?

After I challenged their claim they still maintain that their copyright has been infringed !

Rod

Rats, typo in the title

Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 27/04/2021 15:00:20
27 April 2021 at 15:03 #541874
Michael Gilligan
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… and they used to say the Germans have no sense of humour !

MichaelG.

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https://planetmosh.com/rage-wings-of-rage/

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 27/04/2021 15:05:51
27 April 2021 at 15:11 #541878
Pippin
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Probably a dodgy algorithm, spotting some match undetectable to human ears. It'll be done automatically, probably by the record label. Welcome to the future…
27 April 2021 at 15:28 #541880
Nigel Bennett
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Bunch of clowns…

I wonder what the German for "Eureka form relieving device" is?
27 April 2021 at 15:33 #541883
John Haine
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When did you make the video? They might be infringing your copyright!
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Eureka Formentlastungsgerät according to Google.
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Edited By John Haine on 27/04/2021 15:46:47
27 April 2021 at 15:35 #541885
Phil P
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Eureka Formentlastungsgerät

According to Google Translator
27 April 2021 at 15:41 #541886
Roderick Jenkins
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Posted by Phill Spowart on 27/04/2021 15:11:29:

Probably a dodgy algorithm, spotting some match undetectable to human ears. It'll be done automatically, probably by the record label. Welcome to the future…

My thoughts exactly. I "shazamed" my video but it failed to identify any music…
27 April 2021 at 15:46 #541887
Phil P
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Nice job on the Eureka by the way.

Phil
27 April 2021 at 17:30 #541904
Ady1
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It's because German pop music is so bad

Apart from Nena of course
27 April 2021 at 17:45 #541906
Grindstone Cowboy
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It's apparently a big thing, a YouTuber my daughter watches (video games) was hit with more than 200 infringement notices overnight, each of which he had to deal with individually. This was despite his having written permission from the composer/artist to use their work.

Rob
27 April 2021 at 17:50 #541907
Benjamin Day
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Could be even more underhanded, the add revenue from the videos will now go to the claimant iirc. It would be worth striking against hundreds of vids, some would be disputed but many wouldnt….
27 April 2021 at 18:05 #541912
Harry Wilkes
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Had same problem regarding a photo which I published in a YT video infringed someone's copyright the photo was in fact one that I had taken and said copyright belonged to me

H
27 April 2021 at 18:29 #541918
JasonB
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I've watched a few German machining videos and if you put the sub-tiles on it often come up with "music" when the machines are cutting
27 April 2021 at 18:56 #541924
Steviegtr
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I have had my fair share of knockbacks. My problem is i start to film & forget to turn off the DAB radio.

Steve.
27 April 2021 at 19:03 #541925
john halfpenny
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If you didn't copy, it's not copyright infringement. Copyright is a very limited form of protection, but of course effective if an exact copy is necessary in order to make money – as in copying a book which is within the copyright term.. However, you cannot stop somebody commencing a legal action, even on spurious grounds – so be prepared to state how your rights to the soundtrack came into existence, eg by composition, licence, agreement etc.
28 April 2021 at 08:29 #541989
AdrianR
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Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 27/04/2021 15:41:55:

My thoughts exactly. I "shazamed" my video but it failed to identify any music…

I am very glad to hear 1) You have heard of Shazam 2) You used Shazam as a verb 3) It did not match

I am afraid my grubby fingerprints are all over the Shazam recognition system.

The Google system and the Soundhound system are both prone to odd matches, I would blame one of them.
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