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  • #271850
    wendy jackson
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      @wendyjackson

      hi, I purchased a boring head and some tooling for it from rdg tools. the thing is that when I put the cutting into the head the cutting face is the wrong way round to the cutting face. my milling machine is a tom senior e type and the mill cuts clock wise, but the boring head only works anti clock wise. is this normal ?

      #18315
      wendy jackson
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        @wendyjackson
        #271852
        JasonB
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          @jasonb

          Sounds more lihe you have the tools in backwards, can you post a photo

          Should look something like this

          Edited By JasonB on 14/12/2016 20:25:52

          #271853
          Anonymous

            I can't remember where I got my el cheapo boring head from, but it had the same issue – tooling ground for the wrong hand. My mill will run either way, but clockwise is the normal. I simply reground a cutter. Note the singular – I don't use it very often and have only needed one tool. In order to make it useable I also replaced the tool and slide locking grub screws with proper US/UK ones.

            Andrew

            #271855
            JasonB
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              @jasonb

              Be carful if you run it backwards as on a lot of the imported ones the head screws onto the shank and will unscrew if run in reverse

              #271856
              wendy jackson
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                @wendyjackson

                thanks for feel back, what a pain. I need to do one job with this think and now need to make new tooling for it to work, which means trying to get tool steel over the holidays. more time wasted, I should of looked at the thing longer before trying to use and send it back as unfit. michael

                #271858
                JasonB
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                  @jasonb

                  Just noticed that RDG sell normal and "opposite hand" sets of tools. Did you order or have you been sent the wrong ones?

                  The brazed ones can be reground no matter what hand they are, just grind the curved surface until it is straight. I have done this on a few cutters for when I use the head to turn external diameters rather than bore holes

                  Edited By JasonB on 14/12/2016 20:32:07

                  #271863
                  Mike Poole
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                    @mikepoole82104

                    You will need two sets of tools, one for vertical mode and one for horizontal use.

                    Mike

                    #271864
                    JasonB
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                      @jasonb

                      Why is that Michael, I use the same tools for both. Don't have left hand drills or milling cutters when milling horizontally (or using in the lathe head)

                      Edited By JasonB on 14/12/2016 20:51:07

                      #271871
                      DrDave
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                        @drdave

                        img_0031.jpg

                        I also found that I needed to buy a left hand boring bar for my boring head. Confusion prevailed for some time before I sussed what the "problem" was with the supplied RH tools!

                        #271956
                        wendy jackson
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                          @wendyjackson

                          Thanks chaps, yes I had the wrong side cutters send. More delay added to the job.

                          #272012
                          Martin Connelly
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                            @martinconnelly55370

                            Is it possible the opposite hand ones are used for outside surfaces, is there ever a need to machine the outside of something with a boring head that can only be driven clockwise (viewed from above)?

                            Martin

                            #272017
                            Martin Kyte
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                              @martinkyte99762

                              You may certainly machine the outside of a boss with a boring head with opposite handed tools.

                              another Martin

                              #272020
                              wendy jackson
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                                @wendyjackson

                                hi martin, I don't think I have ever come across a need to use a boring bar on the outside surface, just use a lathe. with the rdg boring head, the head just starts to unscrew itself if you used the wrong way. I see know use for the opposite hand cutters at all, and they are useless in the rdg head.

                                but someone may know more. michael

                                #272025
                                JasonB
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                                  @jasonb

                                  I have done it a few times on things that were too big to swing in the lathe, the two bosses that locate in the hortnplates on these castings were too far apart to swing on the lathe

                                  also used it to cut cams with radiused flanks.

                                  imag1509.jpg

                                  But the job that I use it in external mode for the most is making oval steam bosses and glands. This is just one of the conventional hand brazed bits that I have ground the curved surface flat on so it can be used either way round.

                                   

                                  Edited By JasonB on 15/12/2016 17:08:27

                                  #272028
                                  mark costello 1
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                                    @markcostello1

                                    The more tools You have in Your kit, the deeper Your plans B,C,D,etc can go.

                                    #272057
                                    Nicholas Farr
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                                      @nicholasfarr14254

                                      Hi, I have used a boring head in reverse, as I had no tools for using it in the normal direction. My solution to the problem of the head unscrewing was solved, by drilling and tapping the head for a grub screw **LINK** worked OK for me.

                                      Regards Nick.

                                      #272058
                                      Mike Poole
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                                        @mikepoole82104
                                        Posted by JasonB on 14/12/2016 20:49:48:

                                        Why is that Michael, I use the same tools for both. Don't have left hand drills or milling cutters when milling horizontally (or using in the lathe head)

                                        Edited By JasonB on 14/12/2016 20:51:07

                                        Maybe I was not very clear, what I called vertical is using the tool as in your illustration and horizontal as the bar shown in the drdave illustration they are clearly of the opposite hand so I stand by my assertion that LH and RH tools will be required to use both methods of mounting a tool In a boring head.

                                        Mike

                                        #272060
                                        JasonB
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                                          @jasonb

                                          Thanks Mike I did twig when I saw DrDave's post, I thought you meant when the mill head was used horizontally not the horizontal hole.

                                          Though if a through hole it is possible to cut upwards with a RH tool if the job allows.,

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