
David Cambridge
@davidcambridge45658
Arc Euro Trade – Fantastic Service

Ketan Swali
@ketanswali79440
Posted by Martin Millener on 09/09/2014 22:56:37:
Thanks – some excellent food for thought. Some are a bit over budget 
I think I've narrowed it to Arc Euro Precision Type 2 (if someone can confirm it's good enough for all that a KX3 size mill can reasonably throw at it) or wait for the new "Kurt for £100" that Ketan is promising us all for Christmas 
Ah..KX3 = cnc…If you are looking for less moving parts – rigidity – low profile – consider the ARC Precision Type 2 or similar products. if you are looking at general purpose – higher quality Kurt type – then consider the Vertex VA2. Also look at the heights/profile of all the vices you are considering. Don't consider waiting for ARCs similar offering due in December/January. I myself don't know how good the product will be, and I will be in Zanzibar in December 
Ketan at ARC

MM57
@mm57
Thanks – some excellent food for thought. Some are a bit over budget 
I think I've narrowed it to Arc Euro Precision Type 2 (if someone can confirm it's good enough for all that a KX3 size mill can reasonably throw at it) or wait for the new "Kurt for £100" that Ketan is promising us all for Christmas 

Sam Slater
@samslater95510
I have both a mill with an mt3 taper spindle and a old BP with the R8 spindle. The BP I have dismantled as I am restoring it. The small mill with the MT3 taper is working.
Thank you for the link for the collet chuck. MT3 shanks for drill chucks you mean sleeve?`http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Adaptors-Sleeves
item 120-010-00300?
I have the drawbar.

John Haine
@johnhaine32865
Sam, I'm afraid you have ordered the wrong thing. You do not need an R8 taper adapter in fact R8 is larger than MT3. You need two things. First a milling chuck with an MT3 taper shank and drawbar fixing which can hold milling cutters. Many people these days use ER series collets so you would need something like this from ARC: part number 050-110-25510 on this page: http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Collets/ER-Milling-Collet-Chucks-Morse-Taper-Shank.
that comes with a set of 6 collets. Then you need MT3 shanks to fit your drill chucks with a drawbar hole rather than a tang. ARC do these too, just browse their excellent site to find them.
you also need a drawbar, if there isn't one already. Ordinary threaded rod is perfectly fine for this even if not elegant.
Hope this all helps…

MM57
@mm57
Vertex VA4?
Arceuro 90mm Precision Tool Vice Type 2?
Gloster 100mm swivel base Accu-Lock?
Something else?
..about those sizes, downward clamping on tightening a definite requirement, for Chester 20v/G0704 size table (700mm x 180mm).
Thoughts please? TIA, Martin

DMB
@dmb
I have a female 2MT taper on my small mill and often use the tang-ended 2 mt drill chuck from the Myford for drilling holes in work on the mill. However, its always been a nightmare with the tapers giving out and drill + chuck dropping down @ the most inconvenient time but Murphy`s Law operates – when I want to change back to the milling chuck, will the drill chuck`s taper budge? NO, of course not! Been promising for ages to remove the tang taper and fit a screw – ended one so I can hold it up with the milling chuck`s arbor. Recently, whilst using my 2nd drill chuck, it suddenly fell, leaving the 2MT stuck up the hole! I thought whoopee!, I`ll get that new screw – ended 2MT from Arc-Euro and fit it, problem now solved. The "2nd drill chuck" being a silly price @ a club auction + just had to have it as its stamped "CVA", who my Father once worked for. CVA`s factory in Portland Road, Hove was a dreadful place – could smell it yards down the road – usual smelly engineering factory. Bet locals glad its all now gone from a residential area. Whole site is a modern block of offices containing EDF`s call centre. Cannot think of a single engineering place in the area now. When I was a kind a few moons ago, there was Brighton loco. works, Lancing carriage works, CVA in hove, MetalBox in Southwick, a whole group of eng. factories on the Hollingbury, Brighton factory estate and another lot @ Newhaven, including an iron foundry. There was also a non-ferrous foundry in, would you believe, Foundry Street, Brighton. All now gone and so are most of the toolshops and those remaining are what I call Stanley screwdriver outfits! Try finding a half-decent toolshop in the area now. As far as I know, there is only "Sussex Tools" near West Worthing Station, who are very obliging and will rush to obtain whats not in stock.(Just a very satisfied customer) I forecast, give it a few, very few, years and it`ll all come back again, when the underpaid serfs of the Far East wake up to how their masters are robbing them. Its started to happen already. Thats it 4 2day folks!

JohnF
@johnf59703
Sam have a look at this link, I have one of these and it has worked for me for over 30 years, it's accurate and grips well, at least as well as I would expect. Arc Euro and RDG tooling also offer similar chucks and quite a few come with sets of collets. No connection with the either firm but I have always been happy with anything I have purchased from them.. John
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Emco-Collet-holder-2MT-for-M10-drawbar-/281098787803?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4172cb1bdb

JasonB
@jasonb
Remove the MT3/Jacobs or B tanged arbor from your chuck and fit a new JT/B MT3 one with the M12 draw bar thread. This will allow you to hold the chuck without excess loss of room between table and chuck. Assuming they are not integral shank chucks
In other words remove this from your chuck

And replace with this

J
Edited By JasonB on 07/09/2014 16:03:59

Johnboy25
@johnboy25
Sam… Are these what you're looking for?
**LINK**
John

Johnboy25
@johnboy25
Hi.. I think Arceurotrade have MT 2 & 3 arbors that have thread for either a draw bar or tang.
John

JasonB
@jasonb
Is that thread size or slot? if its thread size ARC have them M6. If it slot size then probably have to make them from flat bar so you get a decent thread dia rather than a small thread and a tee section.

Les Jones 1
@lesjones1
Hi Ian.
I think feeding the clock signal into pin 13 should work. I think it should work without changing the oscillator configuration. (And also without removing the 33pf capacitors from pin 13 & 14) I do not understand exactly what the "Decay" setting does even after reading the data sheet on the chip used in the driver that I use (TB6560) I have set the current to 2.2 amps to match the stepper motor that I have used. (Arc Euro 180 N.cm) I think it would be easier just to buy a 10 MHz crystal off Ebay rather than using the oscillator.
Les.

Clive Hartland
@clivehartland94829
John, there are 2 modifications if they have not already been done, the first is to modify the cross slide bearing (This mod is shown on ArcEuro web page at the bottom of the list 'Projects and articles' and is a mod. to the cross slide thrust bearing,) all the parts available from ArcEuro) If you have a vertical slide then this mod becomes easy as you can use the bracket off the vert. slide to modify and then just do a swop over the brackets. You will need to make a small jig to hold the bracket when you machine it.
The 2nd is a mod to the screwcutting shaft where it is cut and a dog clutch fitted and a graduated collar replaces the lock nut on the right hand end of the shaft. Hopefully available from the new owners of Myford..
The ML10 is a handy lathe and has done all I ask of it without drive mods.
I am working on another mod of my own where |i am fitting a shroud over the screwcutting spindle to stop swarf getting into the 2 thread clamps. Not complete yet as i have to strip the front of the apron to drill the 2 fixing holes.
Clive
Edited By Clive Hartland on 26/08/2014 17:34:01

Oompa Lumpa
@oompalumpa34302
Well, I have the Chester machine. I can only say that Chester were brilliant at sorting out a simple fault with the machine and they were not obliged to as I was not the original purchaser.
For a small Mill I have found it to be quite versatile and I fitted a simple DRO system bought from Arceuro and it was worth the effort. Mine didn't have a stand and so I made one and after looking at the stands "in the flesh" so to speak I wouldn't have bought one as they are just a big cupboard. They weigh in at 165 kilos or thereabouts so they are no lightweight but I happen to have a very handy son who is built like the proverbial Brick outhouse and a prospective Son in Law the same (I think they make them bigger nowadays) so with a bit of "guidence" they put it in place for me.
I will be buying another Mill to go alongside this one and the Chester 626 is probably going to be it. Here is a pic of mine, taken just yesterday:


Ray Lyons
@raylyons29267
My usual day for visiting is Friday, staying overnight and visiting Bristol on the Saturday. in recent years, we have stopped overnight in Cardiff to do some shopping and browsing on the Saturday but this year we were forced to go to the exhibition on Saturday and making the round trip in one day. My Number 1 son, Jim now comes with me, I think it is to stop me buying too much and overfilling the already packed garage. We were surprised how quite it was and like so many, disappointed by the absence of machine tool traders especially Warco but then over the years we have seen so many leave, Proops, ArcEurotrade, Chronos and Myford. It is never the less an enjoyable show with lots of exhibitors only too happy to talk and discuss their models and after all, that is what it is all about.
I don't talk much mainly because of a hearing problem and a slight stroke a few years ago has given me a problem with some words, so I usually look,admire and take photos while Jim can talk for hours. At about 4.30, I found him putting some goodies he had bought into the car boot, intending to go back in when I pointed out that the doors closed at 5PM on Saturday. he was disappointed, we wondered if it was worth the 256 mile round trip, especially with the prospect of joining the F1 car drivers in the usual traffic jam at the Newport tunnel. As it turned out, the traffic flowed smoothly and we we got home in 21/2 hours.
If there is a next time, (age and health permitting.) we will go on Saturday again and stay over for Sunday. Jim was so busy talking that he did not get as far as hall 4, although I took some video to show him what he missed.
Yes we all miss the traders but it is a model show after all and in my book, one of the best

Roderick Jenkins
@roderickjenkins93242
I'm fiddling about with an old Flexispeed lathe that uses short MT0 centres in both headstock and tailstock and I'd like to use my Myford to make some stub arbours. Ketan sells Standard MT0 to MT1 adaptors, which together with a 1-2 adaptor will allow me to fit a MT0 in the Myford spindle.

Standard MT0 is far too long for the short MT0

So I needed to cut down the MT0 socket. I've not tried using the Dremel as a toolpost grinder before but, with some trepidation I decided to try using a one of the Dremel cut off discs. (Incidentally, the Dremel nose thread is 3/4 BSF which I screwcut then tapped in the BDMS bar)

With the lathe and Dremel contra rotating, it turned (!) out to be spectacularly successful.

Flushed with success I dressed the corners

And I now have a short MT0 to MT1 sleeve.

Please forgive my enthusiasm, I had visions of the disc immediately smashing into shrapnel, I kept well out of the line of fire but no drama at all. 
Cheers,
Rod
Edited for spelling!
Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 20/08/2014 14:04:15

Neil Wyatt
@neilwyatt
I'm a bit confused Neil,
The Arc Super X3 has a choice of MT3 or R8 spindle.
It's also on offer until 20 August with a bundle of accessories (including a set of R8 or MT3 collets).
**LINK**
Neil
(That must be worth a biscuit, Ketan!)

Neil Bradshaw
@neilbradshaw24930
Hi Neil Thanks for the reply
That was going to ber my next question
MT2/MT3 or R8
My myford is MT2 so I could use some of the colets etc on my lathe
Im just looking at what is the least amount of money I can spend and what machine to go for.
On that side I think it will be either SPG or Chester to look at for machines.
Arc Euro only have the SX2
I want to finally compare the machines then decide from there.
Thanks everybody for the help
Cheers
Neil

MadMike
@madmike
Lathejack, I don't know where you live, but I live in Leicestershire, about 20 minutes from Arceuro. If you want to pop in and see a Super X3 in the flesh then you will be made welcome. At least you will get some tea nd biscuits or perhaps cake here. Then you can go and talk to Ketan. Remember if you are after one of Ketans "bundle deals" then they are usually time limited.

JohnF
@johnf59703
Jim, Pryor are top quality and if you have a lot of use I would go for these but if it's more occasional use look at the link below to Arc, now I don't have any experience of this product but Arc products are usually very good and I have seen these in the flesh and they do look excellent quality.
My 2d 'th John
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Cutting-Tools/Stamping-Sets#Letter-and-Number-Stamping-Sets

MadMike
@madmike
I bought a Sieg Super X3 fron Arceurotrade about 18 months ago. Although it is clearly sold as a lightweight hobby machine, which it is, I have not had any problems with any of my work which is predominantly making parts for classic motorcycles. I machine predominantly stainless steel of all sizes, with a bit of aluminium thrown in for good measure.
It has proved to be more than man enough for my work and is consistently accurate. I checked my gibs last week and they truly did not require adjusting.
Add to this the wonderful service I received at the hands of Ketan and his team, and I can honestly say that I am one very satisfied customer.