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  • #851020
    bernard towers
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      @bernardtowers37738

      I have been thinking of fitting a digital microscope to my Taig lathe for a while now but am a bit stumped as to the working distances at various magnifications. The usual ads show the scope to be pretty close to the work which is something I would like to avoid. Any help will be gratefully received .

      #851026
      Michael Gilligan
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        @michaelgilligan61133

        Pepler Optics has a useful guide:

        https://www.pepleroptics.com/infozone/category/guides/

        MichaelG.

        #851034
        John Haine
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          @johnhaine32865

          Over on the HSN Forum someone has highly recommended the Tomlov products.  Available on eBay at reasonable price.  Used for viewing work on a small precision lathe, appears to have quite a long focal distance.

          #851069
          alecs
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            @alecs

            Do you need a microscope for a lathe?

            Perhaps a cheap USB camera plugged into your phone or tablet would give sufficient magnification even for horological work?

            #851076
            martin haysom
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              @martinhaysom48469
              On alecs Said:

              Do you need a microscope for a lathe?

               

              maybe the OP has an extremely small lathe

              #851077
              alecs
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                @alecs

                Microscopically small???

                #851078
                bernard towers
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                  @bernardtowers37738

                  I have been offered the loan of one for a week or so to make some evaluations. Watch this space.

                  #851079
                  Peter Cook 6
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                    @petercook6

                    Bernard, one thing to watch out for with digital microscopes is the lag between what is actually happening and what you see on the screen. It’s not a problem if you are using the device for inspection, but if you are actually going to use it to guide what you are doing, then the lag can be somewhere between irritating and dangerous.

                    One useful exercise is to try putting a small screw in its hole using tweezers under the microscope. It becomes very difficult if the device has any significant lag, and most of the cheaper ones do have quite a lot.

                    I don’t think its accidental that all the images you see of electronics assembly line in the far east still seem to use binocular optical microscopes.

                    #851088
                    peak4
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                      @peak4

                      I think it depends if you want it for setting up, or actual machining.
                      I built one using a car reversing camera, mounted to an adjustable DTI arm, and moved the lens to obtain the correct focusing distance.

                      I also bought one of these, which is mounted in a second hand bench microscope stand; I think mine came from a different supplier. It’s good for reading the writing on small taps etc, and would probably do for lining up a screwcutting tool to pick up on an existing thread, but not really suitable for machining.

                      https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365406534500

                      Bill

                      #851093
                      Martin Johnson 1
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                        @martinjohnson1

                        There is some good practical advice on lathe (and mill)  digital microscopes here written by someone making his own pressure gauges here:

                        https://modeleng.proboards.com/thread/8680/help-speedy-valve-gear-issues?page=829

                        Reading a page or two eitheer side of the ljnk will be useful.

                        Martin

                        #851210
                        Dell
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                          @dell

                          I have added a Tomlov digital microscope to my Pultra lathe & although it takes some getting used to looking at the screen & not the work, here is a video of my setup.

                          There is very minimal lag as can be seen from some of my other videos.

                          Dell

                          #851212
                          Michael Gilligan
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                            @michaelgilligan61133

                            Nice introductory video, Dell

                            I look forward to seeing how you get on with it.

                            MichaelG.

                            #851213
                            Dell
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                              @dell

                              Thanks MichaelG

                              I have been using it as much as possible to get used to looking at the screen & not the work but the benefits I see with a digital microscope more than a normal scope is it’s possible to glance at both the work & screen, here is a video of me making a M1.6 screw for a clock.

                              Dell

                              #853153
                              Michael Gilligan
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                                @michaelgilligan61133

                                I can’t personally vouch for its performance, but this looks a very handy little magnifier:

                                product image grabbed from a Manchester Microscopical Society ‘meeting report’

                                a ‘Google Lens’ search will locate plenty of adverts

                                MichaelG.

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                                #853171
                                bernard towers
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                                  @bernardtowers37738

                                  I have tried a couple of different ones so far and the two biggest problems are working distance and vibration but ill keep trying. Maybe the rear view camera might be worth a go.

                                  #853174
                                  Nigel Graham 2
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                                    @nigelgraham2

                                    A reversing-camera has a wide field of view but little magnification, and probably poor definition for close-in work. It’s designed for seeing the car parked behind yours, not the details of that car’s badge.

                                    It may be simpler and just as effective to put a large magnifying-glass on a suitable stand, and use that!

                                    (The biggest difficulties for me are reading those titchy ‘Mazak’ dials on the Myford ML7 and the markings on tools like taps, and using thread-gauges.)

                                    #853187
                                    Diogenes
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                                      @diogenes

                                      Optivisor – best piece of workshop equipment I have ever spent money on next to the DRO.

                                      #853189
                                      bernard towers
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                                        @bernardtowers37738

                                        yes I have to agree I use mine a lot of the time perhaps I should forget the extra faff

                                        #853253
                                        Neil Wyatt
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                                          @neilwyatt

                                          I’d suggest a decent webcam (that takes standard C-mount lenses, then you can choose along focal length lens and have it fitted some way from the work.

                                          Something like a “SVBONY SV105 1.25″ Scope Camera Electronic Eyepiece Planetary Photography” would cost about £45 and would have very little lag with a good connection.

                                          You could search “100X 40mm-250mm C-mount Glass Lens for Industry Lab Microscope CCD Video” as a potential lens choice – shorter focal length may be better.

                                          Neil

                                          #853268
                                          ChrisLH
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                                            @chrislh

                                            I’ve never done anything about it but thought that those special telescopic glasses used by dentists and surgeons could be just the thing for getting close to the job. Probably optical so no delay problems but possibly second mortgage prices.

                                            #853272
                                            jaCK Hobson
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                                              @jackhobson50760
                                              On Neil Wyatt Said:

                                              “SVBONY SV105 1.25″

                                              The don’t seem to come with Cmount adaptors normally. Some say M28.5×0.6. C mount is 1″?

                                              Is something needed to make SVBONY SV105 work with 100X 40mm-250mm C-mount Glass Lens ?

                                              #853273
                                              Dell
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                                                @dell

                                                The nice thing about the Tomlov digital microscope is it’s above the work so not in the way so I can look at both the scope & work.

                                                #853276
                                                Neil Wyatt
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                                                  @neilwyatt
                                                  On jaCK Hobson Said:
                                                  On Neil Wyatt Said:

                                                  “SVBONY SV105 1.25″

                                                  The don’t seem to come with Cmount adaptors normally. Some say M28.5×0.6. C mount is 1″?

                                                  Is something needed to make SVBONY SV105 work with 100X 40mm-250mm C-mount Glass Lens ?

                                                  Hi Jack, you are right, teh Svbony has a 1″ male thread on the front… I was confusing it with my more expensive ZWO camera which has an M42 insert with a c-mount threaded hole in the centre – often used for small wide-angle lenses.

                                                  Neil

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