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  • #841995
    aviv
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      @aviv

      Sorry for the basic question, but does someone know if the bolts in the Omnimil are or Unified?

      they are not metric for sure.

      Thanks.

      #842001
      Wade Beatty
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        @wadebeatty78296

        I’ll go check

        #842004
        Wade Beatty
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          @wadebeatty78296

          The belt tension holding bolt on the vertical head is 1/2 × 13 and one of the hex head bolts holding the flange for the horizontal drive is 1/4 x 20, both fit well on my 60 degree thread gauge set

          #842011
          DC31k
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            @dc31k
            #842013
            DC31k
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              @dc31k
              #842017
              Wade Beatty
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                @wadebeatty78296

                Oh! Einstein shows up!

                #842019
                Bazyle
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                  @bazyle

                  An unified nut does not fit happily on a Whitworth bolt but works the other way round.

                  Worth knowing if you have a Boxford or SouthBend lathe as some bits don’t fit eg chucks.

                  #842021
                  Howard Lewis
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                    @howardlewis46836

                    In addition to the thread form, the pitch may give a clue, as BSF or UNF

                    Unfortunately, BSW and UNC tend to have same pitches for the same size, but 1/4 BSF is 26 tpi where 1/4 UNF is 28.

                    5/16                                                 3/8

                    BSW   BSF   UNC   UNF                      BSW   BSF   UNC   UNF

                    18      22      18     24                         16     20       16    24

                    Although a good guide, don’t be too fixated on the hexagon size. Sometimes you can come across A/F headed Whit form fasteners; fortunately only very occasionally! I met a 5/8 A/F bolt with a 3/8 BSF thread!

                    Howard

                    #842027
                    Wade Beatty
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                      @wadebeatty78296

                      A  1/4 x 20 NC nut fit on the smaller bolt and a 1/2 x 13 nut turned easy on the larger, also a 3/4 wrench fit fine on the hex on my mill.

                      #842138
                      aviv
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                        @aviv
                        #842141
                        Bazyle
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                          @bazyle

                          BTW are you a member of Groups.io/elliott

                           

                          #842145
                          not done it yet
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                            @notdoneityet
                            #842155
                            aviv
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                              @aviv
                              #842186
                              Bazyle
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                                @bazyle

                                https://groups.io/search

                                One of the files of the parts diagram quotes table locking screw of 1/4 x20 UNC.

                                 

                                #842195
                                RobCox
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                                  @robcox

                                  Having stripped down my Elliott Model 00 in the past to refurbish it I can say with all confidence that they’re UNC threads.

                                  #842196
                                  aviv
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                                    @aviv

                                    Thank you all!

                                    #842197
                                    vintagengineer
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                                      @vintagengineer

                                      Head size doesn’t always relate to thread size. Some early Morris cars had Whitworth headed bolts with metric threads.

                                      #842198
                                      Bazyle
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                                        @bazyle

                                        Aviv, assuming you are new to the Omnimill it may be worth checking these previous threads for interest.

                                        https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/topic/elliott-omnimill-00-axial-spindle-lock-ideas/.

                                        https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/topic/elliott-omnimill-modification/

                                         

                                        #842234
                                        aviv
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                                          @aviv

                                          Thank you.

                                          #842235
                                          aviv
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                                            @aviv

                                            And BTW, I’m also looking for an original slotting attachment for the Omnimil, so if anyone knows about one for sale I would appreciate a link.

                                            Thanks.

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