Why does everyone disagree with you

[old martParticipant @oldmart]

There's more than one way to skin a cat, goes the old saying. Some people stick rigidly to a generally accepted theory and it's obvious that they have not actually tried any alternative, rather like a religious dogma.

[Mick B1Participant @mickb1]

Posted by Mike Poole on 27/01/2020 15:56:08:

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Let he without sin cast the first stone.

Mike

Although 'he without sin' is the subject of the putative casting of the first stone, he's the object of the letting, and the accusative case is thus indicated – so it should be 'Let him without sin…' etc.

[Dave HalfordParticipant @davehalford22513]

The simple answer to this issue is if you yourself incensed by someones post then the forum supplies the answer the, 'ignore member' is at the bottom of each post.

That said if you have more than a couple set to ignore is just might be your more issues rather than theirs.

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

Pedant alert Mike!

Whether "He" or "Him" may depend upon the interpretation made by whoever translated the text from the original Greek, or it may possibly have been Hebrew or Aramaic?

L O L as those who text say, I believe

Howard

[David NobleParticipant @davidnoble71990]

Posted by Howard Lewis on 27/01/2020 16:35:35:

Pedant alert Mike!

Whether "He" or "Him" may depend upon the interpretation made by whoever translated the text from the original Greek, or it may possibly have been Hebrew or Aramaic?

L O L as those who text say, I believe

Howard

Lots Of Love ???

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember19781]

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[GeorgineerParticipant @georgineer]

Posted by David Noble on 27/01/2020 17:01:55:

Posted by Howard Lewis on 27/01/2020 16:35:35:

Pedant alert Mike!

Whether "He" or "Him" may depend upon the interpretation made by whoever translated the text from the original Greek, or it may possibly have been Hebrew or Aramaic?

L O L as those who text say, I believe

Howard

Lots Of Love ???

Only if you're looking in the mirror, as mentioned in my earlier post.

George B.

[duncan webster 1Participant @duncanwebster1]

Posted by Mick B1 on 27/01/2020 16:25:17:

Posted by Mike Poole on 27/01/2020 15:56:08:

…

Let he without sin cast the first stone.

Mike

Although 'he without sin' is the subject of the putative casting of the first stone, he's the object of the letting, and the accusative case is thus indicated – so it should be 'Let him without sin…' etc.

If the grammar police are starting to query the King James Bible (John chapter 8 v7), perhaps they should consider whether they have got the rules wrong. If it is unambiguous and easily understood by a native English speaker, in my view it's correct. Different dialects have different grammar, get used to it. In Yorkshire we still use thee and thou, although 'thyself' is probably pronounced 'thissen'

[Howard LewisParticipant @howardlewis46836]

How did we start THIS hare running? We are even disagreeing over the quotation, but at least not the source.

So that probably means that I am disagreeing with some one.

Howard

[blowlampParticipant @blowlamp]

Posted by Howard Lewis on 27/01/2020 18:17:44:

How did we start THIS hare running? We are even disagreeing over the quotation, but at least not the source.

So that probably means that I am disagreeing with some one.

Howard

I don't think so.

[Mick B1Participant @mickb1]

Posted by duncan webster on 27/01/2020 17:55:39:

Posted by Mick B1 on 27/01/2020 16:25:17:

Posted by Mike Poole on 27/01/2020 15:56:08:

…

Let he without sin cast the first stone.

Mike

Although 'he without sin' is the subject of the putative casting of the first stone, he's the object of the letting, and the accusative case is thus indicated – so it should be 'Let him without sin…' etc.

If the grammar police are starting to query the King James Bible (John chapter 8 v7), perhaps they should consider whether they have got the rules wrong. If it is unambiguous and easily understood by a native English speaker, in my view it's correct. Different dialects have different grammar, get used to it. In Yorkshire we still use thee and thou, although 'thyself' is probably pronounced 'thissen'

Actually, King James rather neatly ducked the issue:-

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

I wasn't really being serious, you know. 

Edited By Mick B1 on 27/01/2020 18:54:00

[old martParticipant @oldmart]

I beg to differ, that's rubbish, hogwash, I feel better now, I shall go and make a cup of tea. Tea, that's awful, you should drink coffee.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

Mike

[Ian Skeldon 2Participant @ianskeldon2]

Posted by Mike Poole on 27/01/2020 21:17:51:

Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

Mike

Hahaha Monty Python I think?

I have had some tremendous help from forum members and in all that time only one or two posts that were condescending. I think if I were going to state an opinion I would make it clear from the start that it was just my opinion and others may well disagree with it. Hopefully members will continue to offer advice, support, help and ideas and keep the forum's spirit alive and kicking.

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 27/01/2020 14:44:40:

I usually find most people to be helpful and polite. There is a small minority who do annoy me, one in particular seems to have a degree or two in supercilious comment. For some reason he hasn't joined in this thread!

 

Different time-zone perhaps?

Surely you can do better, Andrew, than lobbing mud from the sidelines while hiding behind the anonymity of the person you're referring to? Calculated deniability?

I think I know who it is The "Ignore member" selection was created to allow you to block those who annoy you. If you don't use it …..

Edited By Bandersnatch on 27/01/2020 21:36:35

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Posted by Ian Skeldon 2 on 27/01/2020 21:34:28:

Posted by Mike Poole on 27/01/2020 21:17:51:

Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

Mike

Hahaha Monty Python I think?

I have had some tremendous help from forum members and in all that time only one or two posts that were condescending. I think if I were going to state an opinion I would make it clear from the start that it was just my opinion and others may well disagree with it. Hopefully members will continue to offer advice, support, help and ideas and keep the forum's spirit alive and kicking.

it certainly was monty P

Argument

Mike

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

Posted by Nick Clarke 3 on 27/01/2020 14:53:30:

I don't get it right every time!!!

BUT

• I accept any information from someone else who has direct experience should be respected – but there may be another way as well
• Any information from someone else with allied, but not exactly analogous experience may be of interest.
• Comments that say 'it can't be done' or 'do it this way or you are wrong' should be treated with caution.
• Contradicting someone from your experience is OK but knocking them isn't
• Thread drift can often be interesting and fun

And finally anyone who hasn't exactly the same sense of humour as me should be taken out and shot now (That was another joke, by the way!)

Personally, I think Nick’s post sums me up – but perhaps some don’t think so.🙂 That’s just tough for them!

I often get it wrong – probably because I, at least, am prepared to offer my take on topics – and I am not a machinist. My advice which might include an analogy, to get the grey cells working, is worth exactly what you paid for it and often has a question mark immediately after. Perhaps too honest for some.

I work on the KISS principle. Keep It Simple, Sweetie (mustn’t use the other word on here). Most ‘apparent problems’ have a simple solution.

[MeunierParticipant @meunier]

Posted by Mike Poole on 27/01/2020 21:17:51:

Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

Mike

Neither, you haven't paid yet.

DaveD

[Anonymous]

Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 27/01/2020 13:04:31:

I've had a PM confirming I'm a baddy.

Good grief! Is nothing sacrosanct? I'd put you in the always worth reading category, even if I don't always agree with you.

Andrew

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

Things not to talk about:-

Brexit

Trump

Multiple motors on VFDs

Downstream switching of VFDs

Desirable colour of swarf

HSS/Carbide

Toy/Industrial machine tools

Cars

Diesel vs compression ignition engines.

Locomotive valve gear.

Euthanase me now, there's nothing left to discuss!

[Anonymous]

We could add:

Injectors

Fast Fourier transform

Star versus delta connection

Bridgeport mills

Kurt vices

All topics that have lead to me being insulted over the years.

Andrew

[GeorgineerParticipant @georgineer]

Posted by Mark Rand on 27/01/2020 22:32:24:

Euthanase me now, there's nothing left to discuss!

You can stay on a bit longer, Mark. I still want to discuss whether drill bits should be called drills or drill bits. And whether scones should be pronounced scones or scones.

George B.

[Mark RandParticipant @markrand96270]

Got a bollocking at work after I was asked to make a Fourier transform routine to be called by another program for an undefined number of points. Knocked up a DFT routine in awk that would work for any number of points. Boss insisted that it should be a FFT coded in Fortran. That didn't work well when called with a non 2^n number of points!

Wars have been started over whether to put the jam on the scone before or after the clotted cream. Don't even start on whether to crimp the pasty on the side (Yuk) or the top…

Edited By Mark Rand on 27/01/2020 23:46:29

[SteviegtrParticipant @steviegtr]

Oh my god. Is this a can of worms or a bucket of frogs. Sod this i'm off to start a new thread.

[Kiwi BlokeParticipant @kiwibloke62605]

OK, 'bye. What on earth's upset him now????

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