Covid-19 fantasies crushed ?

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Today’s News headlines might trigger a ‘reality-check’

1. Tighter restrictions on ‘social gatherings’
2. Vaccine trials paused at Oxford
3. Nadine Dorres criticised by Twitter users

Frankly: I find the Twitter outburst against Ms Dorres the most worrying of these; because it clearly demonstrates that some people have ‘heard what they want to hear’ instead of paying attention to what was said.

MichaelG.

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

Michael,

1. is necessary if people wont behave

2. I'm not surprised about as the scientists are trying to do 5 to 10 years research in months.

3. Ms Dorres is a local MP to me but restrictions dont allow me to comment.

Martin P

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

No argument with 1 & 2 Martin … we are in agreement

I obviously can’t comment on your 3

… My concern was the reported response, by Twitterers*, to her [what I consider to be] valid observation.

Ref. **LINK**

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/nadine-dorries-twitter-coronavirus-christmas-a4542916.html

MichaelG.

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[*] Their case seems to rely upon an exaggerated headline in the Daily Telegraph.

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P.S. __ Apologies for the typo . Dorres should read Dorries 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 09/09/2020 09:08:55

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

Michael,

Have PM'd you

Martin P

[Mick B1Participant @mickb1]

3. is a pointless twitterstorm, where everybody knows that nobody knows.

Whoever just happens to randomly pick the projection that just happens to match reality closest will think themselves a guru and may be treated as such, when all that's really happened is that they picked the right segment of noise and pretended it was a signal.

Let's just hope the vaccination trials bear fruit soon.

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

My prediction, now proved wrong, was that UK infections would peak during May and the whole misadventure would be over by July. This was based on other epidemics, where the nature of the disease results in a bell-curve of infections: one peak and it's over. Instead Covid-19 is playing hard-ball.

Good news is the lock-down has reduced the number of hospital beds occupied. At one point over 20,000 seriously ill patients were hospitalised in the UK, approaching the point were medical care collapses due to overload.

Bad news is restarting the economy has shown the Virus is still active in the population. The chance of catching it has gone up because people are mixing together more. Doesn't matter why they are mixing, whether stupidity, selfishness, or government policy, the effect is the same. Most people are fed up to the back teeth with it and don't perceive much risk in it because less than 6% of the population have had it, mostly in mild form. Quite a dangerous mindset I think. Looking at the statistics, several countries where the disease had apparently been successfully managed are seeing the number of new infections jump up again. And there are many countries where the disease is still taking off.

I'm carrying on with my usual modest precautions. Washing hands after taking in packages; doing one big shop rather than several small ones; buying online rather than going out; maintaining the single-household rule; masking up in enclosed spaces with other people; splashing some bleach; and 2 metre+ social distancing.

I'm not terrified of catching it because most people only become mildly ill. But I prefer not to be in the group suffering fatalities or long term health damage. And if I do catch it, best not to spread it in the week or two it takes for symptoms to appear.

Dave

[noel shelleyParticipant @noelshelley55608]

Working in the holiday trade and living near a seaside town, where little more than lip service has been paid to the various guidelines Etc, what has happened was/is entirly predictable. I was dismaid at what I saw.

There seem to be 2 options ! A) save the populace. Or B) save the economy !

Noel

[FatgadgiParticipant @fatgadgi]

…………. or C) Try to save both, by letting the fit, younger generations go back to normal, whilst making the older and more vulnerable shield (with a choice for the fit older generations).
Surely, that's where we will end up, like it or not

Cheers – Will

[Former MemberParticipant @formermember32069]

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[blowlampParticipant @blowlamp]

People are fed up of it because they've started to realise they have been had.

Governments worldwide have basically hijacked corona virus (colds & flu) for the purpose of giving themselves a plausible excuse to act in a dictatorial way.

The reason for this whole thing, is to act as a cover for the global financial meltdown that started most obviously in the US Repo Market last September and has resulted in the explosion of central banks printing currency, along with other lunacy like has never happened before.

This will create turmoil, so expect all sorts of problems such as massive unemployment, unpayable debt and business closures to come. Expect those problems to be blamed on this so called virus. Also expect them to say they had no choice and did it to save lives.

Then ask yourself why they no longer talk about death rate, but only 'cases'.

Martin.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

It did not take long to drift into politics, at least the early replies knew to steer away.

Now Locked.

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