Bridge collapse

Bridge collapse

Home Forums The Tea Room Bridge collapse

Viewing 25 posts - 1 through 25 (of 28 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #860611
    JA
    Participant
      @ja
      #860625
      Diogenes
      Participant
        @diogenes

        …”An inspection carried out on the bridge in July 2025 found several “major structural issues” that required “urgent attention” according to the BBC..

        ..sounds like a much more astute assessment than anyone guessed..

        #860631
        JasonB
        Moderator
          @jasonb

          Being opereated with far in excess of the design loads prior to that no doubt caused those structural issues

          “Pero’s bridge used to have thousands of ‘love locks’ attached to it before the council started removing them last summer due to them weighing a combined three tonnes.”

          #861086
          old mart
          Participant
            @oldmart

            Instead of making a tried and tested design of bridge, these people using taxpayers money have to go for an expensive structure designed only to look pretty.

            #861116
            peak4
            Participant
              @peak4

              A discussion here on Bristol Live, via archive ph

              Lovelocks, millions and years of concerns – the Pero’s Bridge blame game begins
              The bridge collapse has reignited a row that began in 2014

              It gets a mention on Atlas Obscura
              https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/pero-bridge

              And a little about the architect

              Pero’s Bridge

              Bill

              #861175
              Nigel Graham 2
              Participant
                @nigelgraham2

                I wonder how many of those wretched padlocks were placed by locals who might be expected to use the bridge again, but might also be expected to know better; and how many by dozy tourists who might never visit Bristol again.

                Either way I don’t believe the sentimentality claim.

                It was just a weird craze, rather as people throw coins into water, or (as I have seen) jam them in cracks in tree-bark. Once two or three people have done it, and nowadays presumably posted a soppy “selfie” of doing so on Facetwit or toctick, a daft copy-cat action develops.

                I have seen padlocks stuck on a footbridge bridge elsewhere- in Royal Leamington Spa I think – and I hope they too have been removed.

                The mentality of coin-discarding and bridge-padlocking is summed up by the first instance I recall of the former, and from many years ago. The cash was in a deep penstock pond alongside the road, forming part of the dam in Cheddar Gorge, so irretrievable without some sort of long-handled scoop. (The dam creates a reservoir of Gough’s Cave river as that emerges sparkling into the sunlight, for public water-supply.)

                #861180
                duncan webster 1
                Participant
                  @duncanwebster1

                  Watch out Nigel,  the water gods will be out to get you if you don’t make an offering.

                  #861190
                  Adrian R2
                  Participant
                    @adrianr2
                    On JA Said:

                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cr7kpd1lj7zo

                    Why did this happen?

                    JA

                    My guess based only on looking at a few pictures online is that the top pivot of the hydraulic ram bound up after its period of inactivity, causing the main hinge to lift off the rack arrangement and slide forward.

                    #861191
                    Russell Eberhardt
                    Participant
                      @russelleberhardt48058

                      The prioritising of “art” over functionality?

                      Russell

                      #861192
                      Adrian R2
                      Participant
                        @adrianr2

                        I think just lack of maintenance. The Scherzer rolling hinge design has been around for over a century and has the engineering advantage of leaving a clearer span when open (thanks Wikipedia). The counterweights are the arty bit but they do not appear to have contributed to the failure.

                        #861348
                        duncan webster 1
                        Participant
                          @duncanwebster1

                          According to the BBC people jamming coins into cracks have damaged the Giants Causeway, leading to considerable cost to remove them

                          I worked too hard for my money to throw it in wells or stick if in logs

                          #861385
                          Michael Gilligan
                          Participant
                            @michaelgilligan61133
                            #861416
                            JA
                            Participant
                              @ja
                              On Adrian R2 Said:

                              I think just lack of maintenance. The Scherzer rolling hinge design has been around for over a century and has the engineering advantage of leaving a clearer span when open (thanks Wikipedia). The counterweights are the arty bit but they do not appear to have contributed to the failure.

                              Did the Pero’s Bridge use the Scherzer rolling hinge?

                              Bristol Council has spent an awful lot of money rebuilding/restoring bridges in the harbour area over the last few years. (They are not responsible for Clifton Suspension Bridge). [This is just a comment]

                              JA

                              #861473
                              David Ambrose
                              Participant
                                @davidambrose86182

                                It looks like a rolling lift bridge, but without the usual Scherzer rack and pinion arrangement at the centre of the sector.  If a ram pivot had seized, it might have lifted the bridge off its teeth.

                                #861474
                                Michael Gilligan
                                Participant
                                  @michaelgilligan61133

                                  If I wanted a bridge ‘engineered’ I would probably not contract with Ove Arup

                                  … Just a thought !

                                  [no libel intended]

                                  MichaelG.

                                  #861492
                                  duncan webster 1
                                  Participant
                                    @duncanwebster1

                                    Designed by an artist in conjunction with the firm who designed London’s famous wobbly bridge. Aesthetics would be well down my list of desirable qualities in a bridge

                                    #861697
                                    duncan webster 1
                                    Participant
                                      @duncanwebster1

                                      More bridge news, looks as though the whole thing has moved forwards a long way

                                      https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2026-08-19/over-15-million-pounds-needed-to-fix-broken-bridge-say-bristol-city-council

                                      #861757
                                      Howard Lewis
                                      Participant
                                        @howardlewis46836

                                        Not having followed the story, a quick look prompts comments.

                                        The rolling lift bascule appears to have some form of “rack” teeth, but not the conventional gear teeth that we would expect.

                                        Also, one picture shows the span with what appears to, be a sag. One might expect some deflection, because of the over hung weight, not so much as to be obvious.

                                        But some of the comments suggest that the problem lies with the hydraulic lifting system.

                                        No doubt, eventually, we hope, the truth will become clear

                                        Howard

                                        #861764
                                        Michael Gilligan
                                        Participant
                                          @michaelgilligan61133
                                          #861787
                                          peak4
                                          Participant
                                            @peak4

                                            There’s a few extra pictures of it here

                                            https://manchesterhistory.net/architecture/1990/perosbridge.html

                                            Bill

                                            #861793
                                            ega
                                            Participant
                                              @ega

                                              Whilst I note that the bridge is named after an African slave, those counterbalancing horns remind me of the Lurs  on a pak of butter!

                                              The figure of £1.5M mentioned would have paid for the progressive removal of those padlocks many times over.

                                              #861891
                                              Adrian R2
                                              Participant
                                                @adrianr2

                                                Bristol City Council managed to spend 9 years and £1.1M repairing the cast iron one at Kingsweston.

                                                Probably too much to hope that they will just crane this one back into position to restore access meantime.

                                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6p2qe2q1pjo

                                                 

                                                #861922
                                                duncan webster 1
                                                Participant
                                                  @duncanwebster1

                                                  Looking at peak4’s link, if you place a brick or something else solid between the upwards pointing teeth, the teeth will lift out of engagement and the bridge will then have no horizontal constraint as it rolls, allowing it to move forward as can be seen in the first video

                                                  #861927
                                                  Michael Gilligan
                                                  Participant
                                                    @michaelgilligan61133

                                                    Duncan

                                                    Although your analysis makes sense … one would have hoped that ‘test engineers’ would have checked for foreign objects before commencing their work.

                                                    .

                                                    IMG_1926

                                                    .

                                                    aMichaelG.

                                                    #861966
                                                    old mart
                                                    Participant
                                                      @oldmart

                                                      £15 million aught to buy several replacements, still, it’s only taxpayers money. And have rails too large in diameter for stupid people  to fix padlocks on.

                                                    Viewing 25 posts - 1 through 25 (of 28 total)
                                                    • Please log in to reply to this topic. Registering is free and easy using the links on the menu at the top of this page.

                                                    Latest Replies

                                                    Home Forums The Tea Room Topics

                                                    Viewing 25 topics - 1 through 25 (of 25 total)
                                                    Viewing 25 topics - 1 through 25 (of 25 total)

                                                    View full reply list.