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[john swift 1Participant @johnswift1]

Hi Bill ,

 

you could have done without that

 

if you disassemble the motor you are likely to see two things

 

1,     one of the windings overheated and burnt looking

 

2,     the gap between the segments of the commutator wider and burnt

        where the brushes run

 

there should be almost zero voltage between the segments shorted by the brushes

as they  move from one to another , but this is not so with a faulty armature

 

 

I almost directed you to the wrong motor

at some time I have seen the CL300M identified as a C3 minilathe

 

but having a look at the C3 motor at arceurotrade

the motor is listed as item C3-150   350w   £65 inc VAT

 with a note to check its the one for your lathe !

 

the C2 motor is not listed but its worth giving them a call  to check  its the one you need and price

 

    John

[The Merry MillerParticipant @themerrymiller]

It’s weird that Myford still refer to their collets as ER.

 

Anyway we’re back to my earlier post  and almost full circle now.

 

I’m with you Chris on this one.

I will not use my Myford collets for milling and will look again at the Posilock chuck and even the MT2  drawbar collets that Arc Euro sell.

 

Chris, would you use those for 1/2″ cutters?

[The Merry MillerParticipant @themerrymiller]

There is a big difference between the Myford ER25 collet and the Arc Euro ER25 version.

The Myford one is about twice as long as the Arc Euro  and no way will it fit into the Arc Euro chuck.

I thought there was a standard for the ER25 system, perhaps I am wrong. It looks like it’s just the head fitting which is the same, what goes on behind the head  it is anybody’s business.

[Steve GarnettParticipant @stevegarnett62550]

I’m sure Jason’s right. My original plan was to purchase a set of ER collets – I use this style at work on a middle-size mill, and I’ve never had any trouble with them slipping at all. And at some stage I almost certainly will purchase some; it’s just that the Posilock MT2 set was a real bargain…

 

Surely if you have a set of Myford ER25s, then all you need to use them for milling is a suitable adaptor with a drawbar? Like Arc Euro Trade’s 050-110-25530 ER25/MT2 Milling Collet Chuck which can take an M10 one? And only half the price!

[Keith MorrissParticipant @keithmorriss26344]

Many thanks for the suggestion guys.  For those of you not famalier with this model lathe you can find it on the net by looking into Arc Euro Trade, Axminster Power Tools, Chester UK and Machine Mart, it is either the Seig C1, by Arc and Axminster or The Cobra

 by Chester and CL250 by Machine Mart.  All may have variouse specs but I can assure you that the headstock is #2 Morse although the bore is stated between 9.5 and 10 mm.  My machine is just over 10.5 mm bore so you can’t go by the suppliers details as they do vary somewhat.  Neither the backplate or faceplate will accept the morse taper centre specified and have thought about a couple of the suggestions such as turning the centre down so it will fit through the bore of the backplate, incidently the backplate has a 15 mm hole and as stated by Norman the centre is too large to fit through this hole.  If a suitable catchplate had been designed for this machine then you could turn 250 mm between centre as stated by the manufacturer.  For quick work then yes I could turn a piece of scrap in the chuck.

 

Once again many thanks for the suggesti0ns guys, much appreciated.

 

Keith

[TomkParticipant @tomk39956]

My magazines have not arrived yet.

 

It must just be the magazines that the post office are not delivering

 

 I required a spare part for my milling machine from Arc Euro. Phoned them Friday 15:00 envelope franked as posted at 17:12 and arrived here in west coast Scotland 10:00 am today Monday 20th. Now if the post code of LE16 9EF  is the place that the printing company post there magazines then its strange that Arco Euro which are 21 miles away post code  LE7 1NA can get parts delivered by royal mail why not magazine printing company.

[TerrydParticipant @terryd72465]

Hi John,

 

You’re correct about the phosphoric acid, that’s why Coca Cola works so well (have a peek at the ingredients).  However some brick cleaners which builders use to clean cement off brickwork contains hydrochloric acid (aka Spirit of Salts) which fumes and rusts steel very quickly, so read carefully the labels.

 

I have used a non acidic product from Arc Eurotrade called ‘Restore’ which removes light rust, once the worst has been removed, in around an hour and is very effective.  It will remove heavier rust but it exhausts the solution quickly.  It also produces an anti rust coating which provided some protection afterwards (but not perfect).  Have a look here.

 

For the chuck, try heating it in an oven to around 150 deg. C then cooling quickly with water, which will penetrate and soften., keep repeating and it should help.  This was recommended on the ‘Old Iron’ forum by the guys who restore old engines which have lain in fields for years.  Persevere, it will be ok eventually.

 

Best regards and seasons greetings,

 

Terry

[Gray62Participant @gray62]

I am currently contemplating the construction of either a 5C or ER32 collet chuck for my lathe.

 

I appreciate that ER collets may have a better gripping performance over a small range of size however ER collets offer square, round and hex collets wich gives them a distinct advantage. Also it is possible to purchase a 5C to ER32 collet adapter frm ArcEuroTrade.

So, my question is – which is the best choice in terms of versatility and accuracy and what experiences do any of you have of the options selected.

 

thanks in anticipation

 

CB

[Richard ParsonsParticipant @richardparsons61721]

 

Parts of Hungary were much more industrialised than Romania. Hungary was considered, in those days, to be the ‘happiest cell in the whole blooming Jail’. 

Their industries however, in the main, were rundown, the machines knackered, and their quality was dreadful. There was a rapid de-industrialisation. Hungary was full of scrap-iron. In ’04 and ‘05 I could get almost anything by way of steel, but it was mostly only fit for ‘cattle pen fittings’, it is full of ‘shuts’, hard spots and flaws. It is dreadful to machine. There was a local foundry I made patterns and tried to get then to cast them up for me but the bureaucracy involved was huge and the boss was away so nothing could be done. It too went in ’06, the whole blooming lot including the corrugated iron roofs etc.

In ’06 along came some oriental gents with suitcases full of cash. If there is one thing NO Hungarian can resist is a suitcase full of cash, especially if all the paperwork the oriental wants is a name (any name will do) on a paper written in Chinese for the cash. The scrap yards, stock yards, garages, autosbonto, (motor scrap) yards, hedge rows etc were scraped clean. Even good machines, metal framed sheds and fir tree racks were sold cut to pieces and loaded onto freight cars bound for Europort or where ever. Most of the work was done by Romanians and Bulgarians.  Other things just disappeared. These included several pylons which were due to be erected on a new power line.  Children’s playground swings, Street furniture and the like often just vanished. Copper also tends to do the same vanishing trick (including several kilometres of the over head conductors from the Budapest to Szeged railway).

Those local stockholders who continued in business only bought small amounts of structural steel for building. The rest just went out of business and became un-employed (a favourite Hungarian occupation). The cash, well, it too just vanished.

Why it has not yet happened in Romania is probably the general scarcity of metal working.  So the ‘suitcases’ have not yet appeared.

As to postage from the U.K. it is a dead ‘rip-off’. I am trying to arrange ‘Cab freight’ where a driver puts a small package in his cab and gets a good reward on delivery.  At the moment this is on hold because the boss man cannot get his head round the idea of forwarding stuff delivered to his depot in the UK by post.  Any way He only wants full loads.

Jeff – in Hungary people who make things from ‘scratch’ are almost unknown. You can get a small lathe; there is one in the local DIY superstore. It has been there for years! There are model makers who make wonderful dioramas from plastic kits. There is a local 9mm railway club but making their own locos/rolling stock is beyond them. They would rather pay someone else (usually Germans) to do it for them. People are beginning to make things for themselves but it is mostly building work.

As JasonB reports metal is getting as rare as ‘hen’s teeth’ in the UK..

Keith next year, in the late spring, when things warm up a bit, I may well wander over to Arad bu i will have to investigate the busses first.  in Hungary i can travel for free, how is it in Romania?.

 

Edited By Richard Parsons on 12/12/2010 12:35:32

[TerrydParticipant @terryd72465]

Hi JasonB,

 

If that is the case and the toothed belt is simply a drive from the motor to the countershaft.  Is it possible that this part of the drive is where the highest torque could cause problems and perhaps excessive slip at slow speeds?  The manufacturers must have had a reason to put this type of belt drive here.  If a vee or round belt would suffice surely they would have taken this cheaper solution?  And if they are just mimicking the European machines then the European manufacturers would likewise have a sound reason for this type of drive?

 

Sorry to seem nitpicking but it seems to me that someone, probably a design engineer, has seen the need, probably an empirical decision following experience, to put this type of drive here and if it were me I would research all possibilities before making such a drastic modification without knowing all the details.  That modification would be my last resort. Still, each to his own,  Let us know how you get on Gordon.

 

Terry

 

 

[razzaParticipant @razza]

just bought a 350ncm bi polar stepper and driver card from arc euro trade

im trying to figure out the power supply i need for this can anyone shed any light on this setup as instructions state that the current is 4.2 amps per phase so this seems to mean i need a 8.4amp power supply but on other side of sheet it says the arc eurotrade 160-020-00201   9.04a   controller will drive this motor at the rated power if set up correctly and connected toa smoothed dc power supply rated at 2x the the current setting used on the controller

so does this mean i need to set the controller to 4.2amps and power supply of 8.4amps

or set the controller to 8.4amps and a power supply of 16.4amps 

 

if someone could shed some light on this it would be much apreciated

 

regards mick

[Tony JeffreeParticipant @tonyjeffree56510]

Posted by Terryd on 27/11/2010 10:27:58:

Dear John S,

 

I suppose you are one of those who moan about the nanny state and then moan when every mile of road in the UK is not gritted within the first 10 minutes after it snows and never carries emergency equipment or warm clothing in the car in winter. Expecting the emergency services to be there to aid you within a few minutes if you break down.

 

The ‘warranty’ you hold so high in estimation is a manufacturers warranty and has little legal  force.  It is completely arbitrary and is a marketing aid.  the legal points is that a product sholud be fit for purpose.  Whether you sneer or not that is the legal position and the actual life of a product depends on it’s purpose not some arbitrary one that a marketing manager decides. 

 

Britain led the way in this protection (under a Tory government), the European Union has followed this lead but their protection is not quite as good.  This legislation is one of the reasons that Motor manufacturers are increasing their warrant periods.  They realise it is now more difficult to wriggle out of their commitments so have nothing to lose and everything to gain in reputation by fulfilling their legal requirements.

 

You sneer, as all cynics find so easy to do, so I don’t expect you to ever complain about faulty or useless (i.e. not fit for purpose) goods.

Hi Terry –

 

You obviously don’t know John S; if you did, you wouldn’t attribute such preposterous suppositions to him. I suggest you withdraw those comments and apologise to him before he gives you both barrels.

 

From my reading of his post, he wasn’t sneering at anything; he was simply pointing out the reality, which is that regardless of the words in the sale of goods act, the test of what is or is not “fit for purpose” is made in the courts, not in the barrack room by a bunch of armchair lawyers, or by a hue-and-cry in an engineering forum. That being the case, it is, in my not-so humble opinion, a brave man that chooses to test it in court, given that the downside is that you lose the case and end up paying yours and the plaintiff’s costs, which could be not inconsiderable, even if your next-door neighbour happens to be a barrister. So, for most purposes, waving the sale of goods act under a vendor’s nose and threatening legal action is just so much pi$$ and wind. (In Ketan’s case this almost certainly isn’t the reason he has never been sued – that is down to the fact that he deals honestly with his customers.)

 

Now to get on one of my own favourite soap-boxes, there’s a regrettable move towards USA-style litigious attitudes in the UK – ads on the TV for no-win-no-fee, etc. etc. – which tends to breed an attitude of mind where personal responsibility goes out of the window and suddenly everything bad that happens to you is someone else’s fault. In the case of buying cheap imported tools, the point is that if you pay thruppence for a tool that would normally cost 5 bob, and then cry foul when it doesn’t perform like the 5 bob version, you are absolving yourself from the responsibility of deciding what is and is not reasonable. If you buy a Lada and expect it to perform like a Lamborghini, then you are simply failing to apply your brain to the problem, and it isn’t the Lada vendor that is at fault. Incidentally, the Lada is an interesting case in point, because the underlying engineering was sound – it was after all a Fiat design – it was the QC, assembly and attention to detail that meant it was unreliable. However,if you treated your Lada as a kit of parts that just happened to come pre-assembled, and did the equivalent of Arc’s in-house preparation on the car, its reliability (and probably safety too!) increased significantly.

 

Regards,

Tony

Edited By Tony Jeffree on 27/11/2010 11:49:08

[TerrydParticipant @terryd72465]

Posted by Wolfie on 26/11/2010 12:48:57:

Thanks gents, I was under the impression that end mills cut on their ends. It worked when I tried it anyway lol. But I didn’t go very deep

 

I’m acyually holding the mills in the lathe chuck, can’t afford a milling machine

 Hi Wolfie,

 

the drill chuck is your problem with ‘slope’ because of the helical angle of the cutter it is trying to unscrew out of the chuck.  This is a well known problem.  it is possible to mill like this but only by taking very small cuts.  A relatively cheap (but not free unfortunately) solution is to buy a plain shank cutter and an individual arbor.  Such as these  and these  From Arc Eurotrade,  note though they are for plain shank end mills not the threaded type.

 

But also please remember you can’t learn from scratch by trial and error, you need some basic machining books as a start and use the information available on the internet.

 

Terry

 

Edited By Terryd on 26/11/2010 14:59:13

[LathejackParticipant @lathejack]

Hello

 

 The photos in the album were to illustrate what i found in my machine and, because of the way they are produced and because it was a replacement for the first machine that had the same faults but worse, what some other owners may find in theirs. It shows the remedies i used to correct them, particularly the regular pattern of rings produced on softer metals when using finer feeds, a problem experienced by other owners of similar machines, of various makes and models, i’ve spoken to.

 

 It was about the factories and their methods that cause these problems. Where they are well made it says so. It was not about and does not include any bitching, bashing or slagging off of the supplier, or any other supplier of Chinese machinery. They are not referred to at all in the descriptive text, maybe i should have hidden the brand too.

 

 I did not start a post or thread grumbling about the quallity of Chinese machinery and the suppiers of my own or others. In fact i have still reccomended one of Warcos lathes on another post, so there is no hate campain going on. 

 

 I was reluctant to get drawn into what might have got turned into or appeared to be a list of moaning and accusations as its in the past whether i’m dissapionted with the experience or not. But it seems i owe a bit of an explanation.

 

 Yes i should have rejected the second machine after checking for and finding rust, although a lot less than the first, while still on the delivery lorry. Earlier concernes during ownership voiced to a member of staff about the possibility of damaged bearings were dismissed as nonsense.

 

  A phone call to the supplier when the full extent of the corrosion damage was discovered, once i had finaly found the time to investigate further, as a partner with MS consumes a lot of it, with the machine by this time well out of warranty, got the rather reluctant reply that if i wanted to post them they would take a look. But on mentioning the extent of the corrosion, and on both machines, the first of which by the way had a manufacture date of two and a half years earlier, and asking what might be going wrong in the assembly factory, i was rather abruptly told that there is ‘no problem’ and ‘we never have any trouble’ followed by ‘the factories are the equal of European ones’.

 

 I think at that point, probably foolishly, i gave up with them, not sure how to prove the rust was there from the start. As for the casting sand and swarf, well i don’t recall raising any concerns about that. I always check for it and have always found it in every enclosed type gearbox on machines from Taiwan and China that i have owned. I have two horizontal bandsaws [not Warco machines] and the gearboxes on both contained some. But it was a bit excessive on the lathe.

 

 The Sale Of Goods Act posted by some is an eye opener, but how many of us in our daily lives are aware of its details, and would or should have to use it like a stick to beat a retailer with.

 

 The ‘Mines alright and you should have bought something else’ brigade should remember it is not the purchaser who is responsible or to blame for choosing to buy machinery that turns out to be faulty. And as for ‘Getting what we pay for’ well i think the claims made in the printed advert and verbal assurances is what we pay for, Whatever the asking price.

  

 

Edited By Lathejack on 26/11/2010 03:38:06

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Wow Terry,

 

Yes indeed, the act says many things. Fitness for purpose, etc., etc.. I totally agree with the act.

 

As I said before, we live in the real world. The act is X number of years old now. If it was “tested” and “enforced” in the manner you suggest, in engineering, on lathes, EVERY lathe and milling machine would fail, including Myford – DCs lathe of choice ofcourse . So, if the situation got that far, then there would be NO lathe or mill manufacturer or supplier to buy from. I know I am sticking my neck out, especially considering that no other supplier or manufacturer will.

 

So, especifically in the context of engineering, can anyone demonstrate to me where this act has been enforsed, and which supplier or manufacturer has been shut down in the model engineering field – SPECIFICALLY – directly resulting from this act being enforsed?.

 

With respect, you and all can talk all you like about the act, the law, but the FACT remains that NO issues have reached o the extent of being tested in a court of law. In my limited experience of hobby engineering industry – about 10 years – most issues are resolved before they get to the courts. A hobby machine is much cheaper than a lawyers opinion!….which has yet to be tested under the reasonableness test….as far as I am concerned…..regardless of the act!….and no, I have more sense than to have it tested, because if the case rules in your favor, I guarantee that there will not be any machine supplier left in the U.K..!….Still, that is my opinion.

 

You think that we do not discuss your comment: “If the quality was insisted upon from the factories it would be much cheaper” with the factory.

 

a. I personally discuss this with the SIEG factory on an almost daily basis. I am prepared to pay more (not less as you suggest), and after nearly 10 years of continous “discussion”, we have made slow progress with the production process at SIEG.

 

b. If quality could get so cheap, do you consider Myford prices to be cheap?, and why arn’t there more “real manufacturers” of hobby machines in the U.K., Europe, or even the U.S.?. The reason is that YOU (THE ROYAL YOU), want things cheap!!. But then, at the same time, some of you want to quote us the law – “BIG COLOURFUL DEAL”

 

c. the fact remains, if the lawyers win, YOU will not have a hobby. David Clark will be out of a job, as there not be an ME/MEW magazine…and probably no THIS FORUM to talk about the law. Pure and simple GUARANTEE. I say this on behalf of all the importers. We try to make this hobby affordable, because this is what you want. The margins we make are not so great as Ady believes. Still, I agree that there is no place for absolute rubbish being sold. At the same time, in this particular situation with the lathe, we really donot know ALL the facts, so why is anyone quoting the law?. If you wish to do that, put your money where your mouth is and try to test the act, instead of talking non-factual BS (colourful Beautiful South). Until then, I take WARCOs side. All the fit for purpose examples being talked about do not relate specifically to hobby lathes and mills. As has been stated by you earlier, this has to be dealt with on a case by case basis, and “in my opinion” – if the reasonableness test is applied, WARCO would win, just as much as “in your opinion”, the customer would win. But, I cannot as yet see any FACTUAL PROOF on this thread of a situation like this ever reaching to the courts to be tested.

 

As for Ady, you are indeed lucky that you have a very good old British lathe. If I could make it in the U.K. today, at a cheap price, and meet all the legal regulations of our beloved European Community, I would. This begs the question, why did the company expire in 1942? Is it still possible to get spares? Oh..does it comply with current regs…or is it exempt?. When you die, are you intending to give it to a relation? If so, please ask him/her to come to me for the tooling they need. I will try to give them a good deal. Please make sure you write that in your will. At the same time, do tell him/her, that I dont really know if it will be Chinese crap …in which case, he can weight it in I guess.

 

Terrd’s comment: “The Chinese are not stupid, they want to make quality products which sell well.” – I will pass on your comment to SIEG. I am sure they will appreciate it.

 

I case of claims, I prefer to use the rule of commen sense instead of stating “the law” – becasue this is the course of last resort – considering the costs involved. If I feel that the customer is right, I agree, refund or replace or come to a solution as they wish. If I feel that they are wrong, I invite them to state their case in writing. If I do not agree with their observation and if I am not prepared to give them a refund, I suggest that they take legal guidance and take action against me. In the past ten years, I have invited three customers to take legal action, under the “reasonableness test”. I am still waiting for them to do this.

 

Ketan at ARC.

 

 

 

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Here is rest of the message:

As for the “not fit for purpose” comments, as a lawyer once told me, “we live in the real world”. All I would say, is as follows:>>

> >

1.     For the price we pay – i.e. importer as well as customer, we get good value for money.

2.     “Fit for purpose” – this would have to pass a “reasonableness test” in a court of law…if it ever reached that far. If it did, there is a good possibility that according to this reasonableness test, you will find that the machines are fit for milling/turning. This issue is yet to be tested, because in most cases the matter is resolved before it reaches that far.

3.     Has the person who has made this complaint even spoken to Warco for a solution?

4.     You get what you pay for. If you want a Myford – pay for it. If you want a preparation service – pay for it.

> >

You do not have to agree with me. I am sure many won’t!. At the end of the day, if these people who make such “legal comments” as well as the legislators have their way, there will not be a model engineering hobby left in the whole of Europe…let alone U.K., because quite simply….you wouldn’t be able to afford it. I agree that the assembly quality of Chinese machines is variable. That is the way it is. I agree that there is a case to be answered if there is an extremely poor quality product being put on the market. This is definitely NOT one of those cases, and to “attack” reputable firms such as Warco without knowing your facts, or without giving them the opportunity to look into your problem – if it is a valid one, – is simply wrong. You should use your time more productively to make some swarf.

> >

Ketan at ARC.

[john swift 1Participant @johnswift1]

Hi Bill ,

 

had a quick look at the Arc Euro Trade’s C3 spares 

http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machine-Spares/C3-Mini-Lathe-Spares

 

 and found the brushes (£3.50) and belt (£5)  ,  the cover is out of stock

 

little machine shop has more

 

 

http://lmscnc.com/1686
http://lmscnc.com/1312
http://lmscnc.com/2686
http://lmscnc.com/1331
http://lmscnc.com/1105

 

 

check the LMS cover  is 170mm x 95mm x 50mm

 

 the only cable gland I’ve found is Maplin’s JZ43W

you just need some thing to protect the cable from

 the clamp and the edge of the exit hole in the cover

 

the belt may just need adjusting

its not easy – you will end up doing it a few times at first

 

two studs pass through the slots in the bed to hold the motor in place

and the two grub screws push on the motor body to give a small

vertical adjustment

 

eg by screwing the top screw in and the bottom screw out

the motor will be deflected down to tighten the belt

 

                        John

 

Edited By john swift 1 on 23/11/2010 20:04:36

[Robert Smith 10Participant @robertsmith10]

Thanks for the earlier reply …I’ve now ordered an XMT board from ArcEurotradde (on the basis I have a faulty one from when I originally purchased the lathe – so might be some spare part on there!)

[The Merry MillerParticipant @themerrymiller]

This post is directed at Dave Clark1,

 

Hi Dave,

 

I’ve just been reading the article you wrote for the “Machining in your Workshop” magazine recently issued about the Vee twin engine.

I know that you have a precision machine vice from Arc Euro and are using it in the article.

In photos 47+  I notice that you are clamping a casting right at the end of the jaws.

Is the vice that good that you don’t get any canting of the vice jaw in this situation?

 

Len P.

[Steve GarnettParticipant @stevegarnett62550]

Posted by Terryd on 22/11/2010 22:24:28:

 

The Chinese produce wonderful products such as the IPhone, IPad, mobile phones, televisions,cars etc, why should their lathes be of such substandard quality?  Because we accept it, that’s why!

 

Whilst that’s undeniably true, it’s not quite all there is to it. In the case of Apple, and several other Western manufacturers that I’m aware of, they either own outright, or at least have a majority share in, the factories that make these goods. In the case of the lathes, I don’t think that this is the case at all, and accordingly it’s much harder for any UK supplier to have the influence they might like over manufacturing processes.

 

But the ‘accept it’ point is well made – I’m aware of several other areas in which it is generally regarded that the Brits will put up with any old rubbish, and in some cases ridiculously high foreign exchange purchase prices, and do no more than moan about it. And that’s wrong. Unfortunately, it’s going to take a massive change in the collective outlook before it alters significantly though. So although Arc Euro Trade’s attitude to lathe setups is on the face of it quite laudable, unfortunately you could also argue that this makes things worse overall, not better – simply because Chinese manufacturers will continue to get away with it.

Edited By Steve Garnett on 22/11/2010 22:44:08

[GoCreateParticipant @gocreate]

 

1. I am happy to buy from Arc Euro because there terms and condition of sale are upfront and honest, they don’t poetry there products to be anything other than what they are. Then they give me an upfront choice, dismantle, clean and rework parts myself or use there services. Does their advice to strip and clean invalidate the warranty?

2. Members of this hobby should be loyal to fellow modellers first and suppliers that poetry their products as something they are not second.

3. Suppliers have known about this problem of casting sand for years but seem to take the view of out of site out of mind, so long as it lasts the warranty period who cares? It’s a lack of respect for the customer.

4. Thanks lathejack, you have shown us the true storey of what to expect and how to protect our meagre investment and have a serviceable machine at the end of it, better that than run the machine to destruction.

5. Thanks Arc Euro for your up front and honest marketing policy.

6. I don’t believe it’s an expensive exercise for manufacturers to properly clean parts before assembly and not allow components to rust; it’s a minimum quality expectation what ever the price.

[john swift 1Participant @johnswift1]

Hi William ,

 

the speed control is a special  5k linear potentiometer with a singl pole switch

that is closed when the control is fully anticlockwise (part of the interlock circuit)

this makes you start at minimum speed

 

on my version of the lathe

the forward/off/reverse switch is a 10A 250v    4 pole 3 way switch   , this is to stop you changing direction with the motor running

 

2 of the poles control the motor direction

the 3rd selects  the maximum speed  ,  reverse is about 50% of that  in forward

and the remaining pole is part of the power control interlock –

so the machine switches off as you change direction

 

 Machine Mart , Chester Machine Tools , Arc Euro Trade etc can supply the parts for the lathe

 but I don’t know if they sell the parts you require as a kit of parts

but little machine shop do (when its  in stock)

part number 3200  (the 230v version !)

http://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=3200&category=1023914534

 

first you need to decide if your using the original FC250J/230v or later XMT2325

control board and test the motor just in case thats why the control is missing

 

do you have the manual ?

if not you can down load the latest version from MachineMart

or another version from little machine shop

 

I’ll have a look for a picture of inside the control box

 

    John

 

[Robert Smith 10Participant @robertsmith10]

Hi guys….found this thread via Google,

 

I bought a sieg c2-300 off Ebay a while back – the motor board was blown so I slapped a Danfoss S-1000 scr board in – it worked fine.

 

Unfortunately it eventually went bang ….I had a go at fixing it, but without the schematic it’s a big time sump….I’m throwing in the towel & now want to buy a new board…..ArcEurotrade have two boards for the C2-300 lsted….

 

http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machine-Spares/C2-Mini-Lathe-Spares

 

an FC250J & an XMT2325

 

iIs there pros & cons here (performance, reliabilty, fixabilty wise)….because I don’t know which one to get!

 

Many thanks,

Rob