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  • #401490
    Dave Springate
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      @davespringate

      Hi all, I expect most of you who have been at this a while have a good selection of cap head screws to hand but as a beginner to all this, is it worth buying a mixed selection box of them to start me off. I am going to have a go at the little Wig Wag engine by Ade Swash, or should I just buy what's needed as I need them?

      recommendation's please.

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      #9594
      Dave Springate
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        @davespringate
        #401491
        martin perman 1
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          @martinperman1

          I would buy what you need plus a few extra, if you buy a selection box you could end up with bolts and screws you may never use.

          Martin P

          #401493
          I.M. OUTAHERE
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            @i-m-outahere

            Really depends if you may use them again , i use them all the time so the assortment i bought has served me well and i just top up what I’m running low on . A word to the wise is the cheap assortments are just that cheap junk so look for quality name brand fasteners – the set i bought here in Australia were all unbrako so are of decent quiality . You could of course do it the other way and build up your set as you need them but do yourself a favour and don’t skimp on quality !

            #401494
            SillyOldDuffer
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              @sillyoldduffer

              My approach is to do both:

              • Selection set to start off and then to make sure odd sizes are to hand. This avoids downing-tools in mid-job because a few screws have to be ordered.
              • Buy for the job, plus a few extra as Martin suggests. A 'few' might be quite a lot because buying in quantity is usually much cheaper. Provided you eventually use them that is: a workshop full of unused screws is wasteful.

              As is often the case in engineering, it's a matter of striking a balance. My work requires a relatively small range of metric fasteners, which I stock by the hundred and steadily use up. I have the moderate storage space and cash needed to do this. I'd buy differently if I did one-offs involving a wide range of different fasteners and was on a tight budget in a tiny workshop.

              Dave

              #401497
              Ron Laden
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                @ronladen17547

                Dave, which ever way you buy them get decent quality, the cheap ones can be rubbish, also a quality set of keys.

                Just a thought Dave but apart from cap heads probably fixing the base to the vertical column the Wig Wam doesnt have any other cap heads does it..? or are you thinking for general use..?

                Ron

                #401498
                Dave Springate
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                  @davespringate

                  Hi Ron, just for general use really. I think as a couple have suggested I will start by buying a few more of what's needed at the time and build up an assortment that way.

                   

                  Edited By Dave Springate on 21/03/2019 10:27:50

                  Edited By Dave Springate on 21/03/2019 10:28:12

                  #401502
                  Ron Laden
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                    @ronladen17547

                    Thats what I do Dave, we have a local supplier who will sell you 1 screw but I go and get what I need at the time and round the qty up.

                    #401509
                    Vic
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                      @vic

                      I’ve got quite a large selection of socket screws in stock. I used to buy locally but I find it’s just as easy to buy on the auction site. I always get more than I need for a given project if I need to buy anything.

                      Nearly everything I buy in the way of fasteners is stainless these days, I hate stuff going rusty.

                      #401510
                      John McNamara
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                        @johnmcnamara74883

                        I avoid buying fastenings from the local hardware shop, the little blister packs tend to contain rather low quality no name stuff. they are also rather expensive. The better way is to purchase fastenings from an industrial supplier. small fastenings come in various box quantity lots starting at 100. Often a whole box will cost significantly less than a few fasteners in blister packs. If you google Industrial fastenings for your town or city you may be surprised how many there are.
                        Ring one or two and check stock for a fastening you are looking for. (Many suppliers will supply small lots as well)

                        This UK company popped up in a google search I do not know them at all however the website is easy to use as a reference point.
                        **LINK**

                        I am sure the members of the forum will have other options.

                        Regards
                        John

                        Edited By John McNamara on 21/03/2019 11:16:02

                        #401512
                        Simon Collier
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                          @simoncollier74340

                          When I started I bought mine by the box. Twelve years on a couple of the boxes are almost empty so it wasn't an extravagance at all. M4 mostly plus some M3 and M5, cap heads and countersunks.

                          #401513
                          pgk pgk
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                            @pgkpgk17461

                            Like everything else it depends on intended usage but for my messing about I usually buy stainless capheads from ebay. I have a whole selection of sizes and lengths from my r/c heli days as a staring point and top up + extras in the sizes I need. Obviously for high tensile situations (which rarely apply to me ) I use that type of caphead instead.

                            If in doubt get them longer and can always be trimmed down.

                             

                            pgk

                            Edited By pgk pgk on 21/03/2019 11:52:19

                            #401515
                            Howard Lewis
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                              @howardlewis46836

                              Buy your Capscrews from a proper engineering supplier. "supermarket" hardware can be low strength. Unbrako is good quality. (Ditto for Allen keys, I still use the Unbrako Allen keys bought in 1958 when I was was an Apprentice )

                              The steel in the D I Y screws and keys can be soft and more trouble that they are worth. You tend to find this out when you need to remove a tight screw!

                              Howard

                              #401523
                              martin perman 1
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                                @martinperman1

                                Dave,

                                Where abouts do you live, one of us might be near by and could tell you where to shop.

                                Martin P

                                #401530
                                Rik Shaw
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                                  @rikshaw

                                  Dave – I usually buy a box or two when either Aldi or Lidl have them in. I have not seen any lately though. To be sure, they are not as good as something like Unbrako but they are quite acceptable for much of what I do in the workshop. I would not use them though on safety critical fittings – on a motor bike for instance.

                                  Rik

                                  #401532
                                  Dave Springate
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                                    @davespringate
                                    Posted by Howard Lewis on 21/03/2019 11:59:10:

                                    Buy your Capscrews from a proper engineering supplier. "supermarket" hardware can be low strength. Unbrako is good quality. (Ditto for Allen keys, I still use the Unbrako Allen keys bought in 1958 when I was was an Apprentice )

                                    The steel in the D I Y screws and keys can be soft and more trouble that they are worth. You tend to find this out when you need to remove a tight screw!

                                    Howard

                                    Hi Howard thanks for the reply, I'm in Deal, Kent

                                    #401535
                                    Dalboy
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                                      @dalboy

                                      Try these

                                       

                                      Invicta tools and fixings

                                      or these

                                      DJ Invicta supplies Ltd

                                      as they are quite close to you. There use to be one in Staple which I forget their name or if they are still trading

                                      Edited By Derek Lane 2 on 21/03/2019 14:19:04

                                      #401536
                                      Alan Waddington 2
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                                        @alanwaddington2

                                        If you want to buy online, iv’e used Orbital fasteners in the past, found them good quality and reasonably priced.

                                        **LINK**

                                        #401537
                                        Old School
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                                          @oldschool

                                          I use a company called GWR Fasteners they are net based and supply a good quality product with excellent service.

                                          #401579
                                          Chris Evans 6
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                                            @chrisevans6

                                            Always try and buy cap head screws with the "DIN 12.9" spec to ensure the quality. No guarantee but should be better.

                                            #401582
                                            Samsaranda
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                                              @samsaranda

                                              Quality of items bought on EBay can be very variable, have found a good supplier online where quality is excellent and small quantities is no problem. The company is called Westfield Fasteners and they carry a good range of sizes and types and their stainless fasteners are excellent.

                                              Dave W

                                              #401583
                                              alan-lloyd
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                                                @alan-lloyd

                                                Hi I have used the following suppliers, unbrako fasteners, model fixings, socket and allied, precision technology supplies, precision screws, southeast Essex fasteners and surplus supplies, hope this helps

                                                #401584
                                                Mike Poole
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                                                  @mikepoole82104

                                                  Bright Zinc Plated cap screws are available and were preferred on our production equipment as water cooled welding equipment does leak on occasion and the black finish will rust. Long term storage in most people’s workshops will possibly rust and BZP can offer some protection. The cosmetics of black or BZP will have to be assessed for the application. BZP can look a bit out of place in some places but rusty bolts look rubbish as well.

                                                  Mike

                                                  Edited By Mike Poole on 21/03/2019 19:50:10

                                                  #401589
                                                  martin perman 1
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                                                    @martinperman1

                                                    Anglia Fasteners of Bedford is my supplier of choice, I buy a selection of what I need and have been known to query the price because they are cheap.

                                                    Martin P

                                                    #401592
                                                    John Reese
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                                                      @johnreese12848

                                                      Years ago I bought a box of assorted metric cap screws. I found it extremely useful. Cap screws are not readily available at the local level in the US except in small overpriced lots and unknown quality at hardware stores, auto parts shops, and home improvement stores. Fastenal carries a good supply but in the last year they restricted sales to commercial accounts. I now buy all my cap screws on line from industrial supply houses. Their minimum lot sizes assure I will have excess inventory. Even when buying more common fasteners I always buy more than my immediate needs. I hate when I am trying to fix something and find I do not have the right fastener in my cabinet.

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