table support bar on elliot 10m shaper

table support bar on elliot 10m shaper

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    Martin Walsh 1
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      Hi

      excuse me if this sounds a really daft question.

      I want to square off a 2 inch square block on my shaper

      so will only be taking light cuts using the auto feed

      do I have to use the table support bar or would it be ok to

      leave the table support bar disengaged and only use it for more heavier work

      Best Wishes Martin

      #6361
      Martin Walsh 1
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        #99668
        colin hawes
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          I always use the table support on my Elliot shaper when possible. Colin

          #99669
          Martin Walsh 1
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            @martinwalsh1

            Thanks

            Best Wishes martin

            #99670
            _Paul_
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              If you square off your 2" block without the table support you may find that the block ends up anything but square.

              As the tool advances along the work and the ram travels further out from the body of the machine the tendency will be for the table to get forced down resulting in a tapered cut.

              As the 10m is designed to cut with a steady you may also risk damaging the machine, especially if you have a "dig in"

              Why dont you want to use the support?

              I know mine can sometime be sticky to move but nothing that a clout or two with a hide mallet wont cure devil

              Paul

              #99671
              Ady1
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                @ady1

                It's a bit like a tailstock centre

                You can do a lot of jobs without it but a job will always be stiffer whenever you use it

                #99672
                Martin Walsh 1
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                  @martinwalsh1

                  Hi Paul

                  I used the support and everything was fine

                  I hadn't used it for a long time and couldn't remember

                  will be using the shaper a lot more now I have achieved a finish

                  which I would never have achieved on my milling machine

                  I'am making a QCTP at the moment so will be cutting the dovetails on it

                  much more economical then using milling cutters

                  Best Wishes Martin

                  #99699
                  _Paul_
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                    Hi Martin,

                    Cutting dovetails with a shaper does take a little more work than a mill but much more satisfying and as you quite rightly point out cheaper.

                    IMHO the shaper can also produce a better finish than a Mill when using a "shear-grind" toolbit and a slow feed (bring on the bottles & stones).

                    Good luck with the toolpost, I made some toolholders for my Aloris clone QCTP on the shaper:

                    Regards

                    Paul

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