turning tungsten

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10 July 2014 at 18:00 #29521
Matts BitsNBobs
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10 July 2014 at 18:00 #157529
Matts BitsNBobs
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Hi all,

As it says, any tips on speeds, tools-HSS or tip tools, lubricant etc.

A friend has asked me to turn a piece of bar apx 2in down, not got the sizes yet and I was hoping for a bit of advice. I will be using a super 7 if this helps for speed etc, any help would be much appreciated.

Regards Matthew
10 July 2014 at 18:14 #157532
Oompa Lumpa
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Frankly, sounds like you are in for a real treat. Oh, and he is no friend either.

graham.
10 July 2014 at 18:29 #157536
Bob Brown 1
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Try this **LINK**
10 July 2014 at 18:32 #157537
JohnF
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Hi Matt, I turned some down to make some sample counter weights, it is tough but not so hard. I used a tipped tool but HSS will also cut it, the components I made had a 6m thread as well and the tap was a standard HSS tap but it was tough going. Lube well with a good quality cutting oil and you should be OK.

Many years ago the company I worked for made a lot of counter weights for aircraft and the material was called heavy alloy, it was largely tungsten , not sure of the other components but again there was no particular problem machining these with normal tooling.

regards John

Edited By JohnF on 10/07/2014 18:32:55
10 July 2014 at 20:54 #157548
Bubble
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Hi Matt

I used to help a friend out, turning tungsten alloy for darts bodies. I don't recall any problems, used HSS and including screwcutting the thread for the flights, probably 2 BA

Jim
10 July 2014 at 21:05 #157550
Rik Shaw
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Hello Mathew – many years ago a dart playing enthusiast asked me to "thin" down the body of a set of tungsten darts. It was probably the easiest material I have ever turned – like butter with a HSS tool bit. Weirdest thing though is that the swarf came of looking golden – like bronze – but within seconds, oxidised and went grey.

Rik
10 July 2014 at 23:38 #157562
Roderick Jenkins
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Matt,

Depends whether it is pure or one of the "alloys". I use the quotation marks because the heavy metal (as used in darts) is actually tungsten powder in a matrix of nickel and iron or copper and not a true alloy. Tungsten heavy metal turns like free cutting steel.

Pure tungsten is a different matter. This link may help.

If it's the latter – good luck!

Rod
11 July 2014 at 07:58 #157570
Matts BitsNBobs
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Thanks everyone,

First I will see if I can talk him out of it, if not I will let you know how I get on.

Many thanks Matthew
12 July 2014 at 18:35 #157733
Steve Withnell
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Thanks for the explanation Rod – I've a piece of pure Tungsten bar, 1/4 inch diameter and my experience isn't of something that cuts like butter using HSS tooling!

Steve
12 July 2014 at 21:28 #157743
Roderick Jenkins
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You're very welcome. If anybody has a source of heavy metal bar in small quantities I'd be glad to know of it. It's very good for balancing model i.c. engine crankshafts. 1/4", 6mm, 3/8" or 8mm would all be useful.

cheers,

Rod

Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 12/07/2014 21:28:29
18 July 2014 at 16:17 #158167
Matts BitsNBobs
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Thanks again for all the help, just to let you know I talked him into using brass, but I am still keen to give the tungsten ago at some point just out of curiosity, if I do I will let you all know how bad it was.

Regards Matt
18 July 2014 at 21:55 #158188
Versaboss
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Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 12/07/2014 21:28:13:

You're very welcome. If anybody has a source of heavy metal bar in small quantities I'd be glad to know of it. It's very good for balancing model i.c. engine crankshafts. 1/4", 6mm, 3/8" or 8mm would all be useful.

Rod,

that's not too difficult. Over the big water they indulge in a strange sport called Pinewood Derby racing. This has developed into a hi-tech affair, and so they use Tungsten rods and balls to put as much weight as allowed into these cars. Search for Pinewood, and you will see it all.

I also bought some small off cuts of Tungsten in 4-6 mm dia. (iirc) on this famous 4-letter auction site.

I did not any turning tests with these, but if someone asks…

Regards, HansR.
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