Oh i thought it was only me that felt this way.

There aren’t enough pills in the MIMS index to calm me down. Only avoidance of the news media helps. You have pretty much said it all. The lack of logic and critical thinking is most of the problem. The subversion of the education system is where it starts. Dogma, and politically correct truths, not open minds and hearing all sides. Climatology is the obvious current example, where an impossibly complex system is reduced to absurdly simplistic notions.

No it isn't Argument

* Danny M *

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Hi Steve, can you give us an example of what you mean?

Tony

Just take the bits you find useful and filter out the bits you don't

We are all treading different paths, sometimes these paths cross, sometimes they don't

Mine were sixpence,  acquired by liberating a bit of copper from a muddy puddle in Leith Docks and taking it to a metal dealer on the way to the chip shop

Edited By Ady1 on 27/01/2020 09:10:56

Ultimately this is a political issue and will probably get curbed or locked.

It has to do with the majority of members living in a country of declining economic and technical prowess, which induces an environment of cutthroat competition for gainful work, where the outcome doesn't always – or even mostly – reflect merit. This leaves many capable individuals close to or beyond the end of their working careers with issues, which will play out in some form in any communication they engage in. That's my two-penn'orth, anyway.

Question posed by the thread title : Why does everyone disagree with you

Response : Probably an invalid question [false premise], and therefore unanswerable

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Slightly more helpful :

Because this is a forum … which, by definition, is a place where people declare opinions

Because some contributors have strong ‘pre-conceived notions’

Because some people are naturally disposed to ‘preach’ rather than to discuss

etcetera, etcetera

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Keep it coming, Steve … I, for one, am enjoying your posts.

MichaelG.

Steve, I read your post which I think gave rise to this topic and I understand why you are a little put out at some of the responses.

For what it is worth, I still think they are in the minority here. I for one enjoyed your post

You will often see quite different opinions voiced here and it's partly I think because we are a very broad church in the interests we pursue. So you have people with a very wide range of experience who work on projects ranging from horology to full-sized locomotive repair. What makes sense to one will not always make any sense at all to others. This is why one mans "toy" lathe is another persons dream machine.

I try to explain what I do and why within a context (being part machinist & part small scale modeller). My machining methods work for me but might not for others. I need good results but I don't need micron precision. My machinery is mostly old and has seen better days – I occasionally curse it but haven't yet been tempted to change it. Fortunately, I don't need to make a living at what I do (or I'd starve). Whilst I can afford most of what I need and/or want these days, that wasn't always true and I'm still reluctant to spend big money if I can find cheaper ways…

So I am therefore somewhat unique in what I do and the way that I do it – as are most folk on this Forum. We are all different in many small (and sometimes large) ways in both our preferences and experience. I don't see that as a problem – more an advantage – but it would sometimes help if folk put their suggestions into context – e.g. tractor or clock….00 or 71/4"

Regards,

IanT

Ref Ady1 , I would have loved to have seen a 'debate' between someone like LBSC and Jim Ewins over

valve gear design !

Hmm, having read the above I not sure if I'm a goodie or baddy. Obviously I think I offer good-humoured, accurate well-balanced advice firmly based on evidence, and am able to quote references if necessary. It's not about me being right or wrong, I'm here to share and exchange knowledge. Others might see me as 'difficult', because I will challenge faulty logic and misunderstandings, especially when opinion and beliefs aren't supported by evidence.

The tone of the Forum is conversational; it's more like a group chatting in a pub than a formal meeting of the Royal Society. Threads tend to wander, discussions start, and that leads to debate. It allows the forum to address a much wider range of subjects than, say, Practical Machinist, which is more tightly focussed on direct answers to machining questions. As this is a hobby forum, surely wide diversity is a good thing? It's 'Model Engineering' in the widest sense, not limited to steam locos and Myfords!

The expertise available on this Forum is considerable, and it surely has a good claim to be the most helpful hobby forum on the Internet. It doesn't worry me to be be put right by chaps who know what they're talking about and justify their reasoning. Anyone annoyed by an answer who can't offer a factual rebuttal should look to their psychology: no-one likes being told they're wrong, doubly so when the fault is egregious.

Stevie mentions that his offerings have attracted negative comments. I suggest there's a simple reason: Stevie is newly arrived from a professional electrical background and hasn't quite tuned into the subtleties of home workshop electrics yet. He's a newbie plus, with real skills and gaps.  That's led to a few low scoring suggestions rather than bullseyes. Better to adjust one's aim than to take the hump. What's important is offering help, if Stevie persists his expertise will line up with the problem and everyone will benefit. (As an ex-computer professional, I have the same problem.  I know chaps who favour BASIC are wrong, but my expertise is misplaced. If you know BASIC and it does the job, me insisting of the virtues of other computer languages is unhelpful, even if I am right!)

Finally, just having a strong opinion doesn't make it correct! Engineering isn't about opinions. When the evidence contradicts a belief, dump the belief. Never ever believe your own propaganda!

You're all wonderful.

Dave

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