Lathe and big machines | help needed in finding them a new home

Lathe and big machines | help needed in finding them a new home

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  • #489730
    M Blake 1
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      @mblake1

      My Father-in-law has some big machines he no longer needs.

      I'm not sure what is the best way to ensure these machines go to people who would like them.

      Are they valuable?

      Link to some photos (hopefully this link will work):

      https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OlRfBNUl3iGSiTEJvs8cEyXwP_fWk1st?usp=sharing

      Thanks for any help you can offer.

      Mike

      #19908
      M Blake 1
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        @mblake1
        #489740
        clogs
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          @clogs

          be confident, there's always a place for the big stuff…..

          may take a while tho…..

          #489741
          Thor 🇳🇴
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            @thor

            Hi Mike,

            Welcome to the forum. The link didn't work for me, there is an explanation on how to post pictures on the forum here.

            Thor

            Edited By Thor on 09/08/2020 07:07:23

            #489743
            Michael Gilligan
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              @michaelgilligan61133
              Posted by Thor on 09/08/2020 07:07:11:

              Hi Mike,

              Welcome to the forum. The link didn't work for me, […]

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              #489757
              M Blake 1
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                @mblake1

                Hi All

                Hopefully the link is now fixed (sorry!)

                Mike

                #489760
                MichaelR
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                  @michaelr

                  Link Here

                   

                  MichaelR

                  Edited By MichaelR on 09/08/2020 09:04:53

                  #489761
                  M Blake 1
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                    @mblake1

                    Hi Thor

                    Thanks – here are the photos via my album:

                    1.

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                    2.

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                    3.

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                    4.

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                    All in working order to the best of my knowledge.

                    #489770
                    Chris Evans 6
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                      @chrisevans6

                      Where in the world are they located ?

                      #489776
                      M Blake 1
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                        @mblake1

                        Hi Chris

                        Very good point.

                        They are in Rutland.

                        Mike

                        #489779
                        Michael Gilligan
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                          @michaelgilligan61133
                          Posted by M Blake 1 on 09/08/2020 08:52:20:

                          Hi All

                          Hopefully the link is now fixed (sorry!)

                          Mike

                          .

                          Thanks for that Mike yes

                          … May I presume, from the 13A sockets, that these items are in the U.K. ?

                          MichaelG.

                          .

                          Edit: only just seen your Rutland post.

                          Edited By Michael Gilligan on 09/08/2020 10:05:10

                          #489784
                          John Haine
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                            @johnhaine32865

                            Mike, I have sent you a PM.

                            #489786
                            Andrew Evans
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                              @andrewevans67134

                              Hello Mike

                              Your father in law has some nice quality machines there, probably a few thousand pounds worth if sold properly. I would advertise via Tony Griffiths http://www.lathes.co.uk who will advise on what they are worth and help with the advert wording. He does charge a fee but think you will get the best price with no hassles that way. Beware of traders who offer a few hundred quid to clear the workshop.

                              Hope this helps. Andy

                              Edited By Andrew Evans on 09/08/2020 10:26:30

                              #489787
                              Vidar
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                                @vidar

                                The Schaublin lathes are certainly popular and valuable. How valuable depends on condition and included accessories. You might want to take some more pictures of those. (The Schaublin 70 might have an audience among watchmakers too).

                                The Denford seems to be computer controlled. I've seen pricing for that all over the place. Pictures of accessories would again be helpful – sometimes they cost more than the actual machine.

                                #489790
                                Robert Atkinson 2
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                                  @robertatkinson2

                                  Those are actually not that big and are high quality machines. Yes they have significant value.
                                  Other will have a better idea of exact values but the small bits an pieces and accessories are important and add to value.
                                  An adver on here might work otherwise an auction (one for each machine with any bits you can associate with it) is a good option.

                                  #489792
                                  Andrew Evans
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                                    @andrewevans67134

                                    The Schaublin 102 lathes are advertised for around 7000 Euro from dealers in Europe to give you an idea but a private sale would be less. As others have said condition and accessories can make a big difference. It looks good in the pictures and not worn out.

                                    The Denford Novamill would sell for between £700 and £2000 depending on details. If it works with a modern computer then £2k.

                                    #489794
                                    M Blake 1
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                                      @mblake1

                                      Thanks for the comments everyone!

                                      Andrew – there is a PC next to the Dentford, it looks about 10-ish years old.

                                      thumbnail_img_1236 pc.jpg

                                      My Father-in-law made clocks and even published some in Model Engineer magazine.

                                      So, I believe he will have a lot of accessories to go with everything.

                                      I presume all the 'templates' for his clocks are on this PC too. I'd be a shame if these files were lost.

                                      #489796
                                      Emgee
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                                        @emgee
                                        Posted by Andrew Evans on 09/08/2020 10:40:57:

                                        The Schaublin 102 lathes are advertised for around 7000 Euro from dealers in Europe to give you an idea but a private sale would be less. As others have said condition and accessories can make a big difference. It looks good in the pictures and not worn out.

                                        The Denford Novamill would sell for between £700 and £2000 depending on details. If it works with a modern computer then £2k.

                                        Believe you are too optimistic with the Novamill price, if fitted with the cabinet and chip guard they go for your bottom figure, but stripped bare they don't make as much. Even if retrofitted and running with Mach or Linux IMO £2000 is way OTT for a machine with such little distance tool to table.
                                        Although 1 recently made £2650 but it had the BT30 spindle and an ATC.

                                        Emgee

                                        Andrew, if you check the Denford plate the date of manufacture will be stamped in, much more than 10 years old.

                                        Edited By Emgee on 09/08/2020 11:07:50

                                        Edited By Emgee on 09/08/2020 11:15:49

                                        #489799
                                        Andrew Evans
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                                          @andrewevans67134

                                          Perhaps I am being a bit optimistic on the Novamill. I sold one years ago converted to Mach 3 for, I think, £1500 on eBay (very similar to what I paid and I may be over egging the pudding as it was a while back) and my impression is that prices have gone up. If someone wants a smaller, quality CNC milling machine they are a good option and not that easy to get.

                                          #489813
                                          John Haine
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                                            @johnhaine32865

                                            ……..and you can greatly ease the daylight problem by using BT30 collets direct in the spindle…

                                            #489817
                                            JasonB
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                                              @jasonb

                                              Home and Workshop have a couple at the moment for £1200 and £1400 + VAT in the cabinets

                                              Edited By JasonB on 09/08/2020 13:04:59

                                              #489820
                                              Robert Atkinson 2
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                                                @robertatkinson2

                                                A micromill with chip guard and tool changer went for over £2500 on ebay earlier this year.
                                                https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Denford-Novamill-Cnc-Milling-Machine-/153966150453?

                                                A lot has changed since January though.

                                                Robert G8RPI

                                                #489826
                                                Emgee
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                                                  @emgee

                                                  That's the 1 I quoted that was sold in June
                                                  Emgee

                                                  Ended:

                                                  19 Jun, 2020 19:38:55 BST

                                                  Winning bid:

                                                  £2,565.00

                                                  [ 26 bids ]

                                                  #490318
                                                  M Blake 1
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                                                    @mblake1

                                                    8852ba9c-81cd-4fc2-817d-8c4208d74724.jpegA few more photos. My father-in-law’s workshop was featured in a back issue of a magazine. The article gives some more info and pics about these machines:

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                                                    #494701
                                                    Thomas Mallard
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                                                      @thomasmallard27981

                                                      Have these machines been sold?

                                                      I have PM'ed you I think…

                                                      Tom

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