New legislation that could affect us all.

[GeorgineerParticipant @georgineer]

Posted by Hopper on 09/01/2020 12:46:54:

So they need legislation to mandate a rubber seal ring under the seat.

I did a search. Is this what you had in mind?

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 09/01/2020 11:25:14:

Posted by Nicholas Farr on 09/01/2020 09:17:51:

Incidentally, the seat cover should be down during flushing for hygienic reasons, as micro drops of contaminated water can travel quite a distance throughout the room during the flush and land on all your nice clean surfaces in the vicinity including any exposed toilet roll and the bacteria will continue to multiply.

Regards Nick,

Hi Nick,

I read a report in new Scientist on research that showed the narrow gap left when the seat is down creates a venturi effect and actually spreads the aerosol of contaminated water further.

Bet that's cheered you up.

Neil

Hi Neil, so that's why my steel toe caps have gone rusty, ah well! I'll have to make a box to slide over the whole thing with a upturned rim on the base so as to catch every single drop.

Regards Nick.

[MalcParticipant @malc]

After a very lengthy "Lack of convenience" due to refurbishment of one of the college toilets it was announced that it would finally be re-opened the following Friday. Some comedian felt that the occaision deserved a better billing, however the management were not amused!

As a result of a recently passed motion

The Organisers : B.A.D. Skidmark

bid you welcome to :

THE

GRAND INAUGURAL

CRAPPING CEREMONY

FRIDAY 15^TH JUNE

2-00 PM

To mark the opening of the new Staff & Student relief offices.

Heavy refreshments will be served to maintain a lively attendance

(Prices reduced by a tird !)

Entertainment By :

“Sheila Shitz & the Bog Trotters”

Displays By :

“The Panhandlers”

(not to be missed !)

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Posted by Nicholas Farr on 09/01/2020 14:57:26:

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 09/01/2020 11:25:14:

Posted by Nicholas Farr on 09/01/2020 09:17:51:

Incidentally, the seat cover should be down during flushing for hygienic reasons, as micro drops of contaminated water can travel quite a distance throughout the room during the flush and land on all your nice clean surfaces in the vicinity including any exposed toilet roll and the bacteria will continue to multiply.

Regards Nick,

Hi Nick,

I read a report in new Scientist on research that showed the narrow gap left when the seat is down creates a venturi effect and actually spreads the aerosol of contaminated water further.

Bet that's cheered you up.

Neil

Hi Neil, so that's why my steel toe caps have gone rusty, ah well! I'll have to make a box to slide over the whole thing with a upturned rim on the base so as to catch every single drop.

Regards Nick.

Faecal matter and related bacteria are more common in kitchens than toilets apparently. Mythbuster's found it to be true of their premises, yuk. Suggested the reason is people are bad at washing their hands while toilets get blasted with bleach and other strong chemicals. Apparently even medical staff trained to wash thoroughly often do a poor job. Alas humanity – no cure for bad habits, laziness or being rushed…

At one time it was believed about 90% of body weight was bacterial rather than human. While that's been revised down, we are still estimated to be carrying roughly our own weight of bacteria. Although I'm more gorgeous than Michaelangelo's David on the outside, beauty is truly only skin deep.

Dave

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi S.O.D., one reason why I prefer pubic loo's and those in shops, that don't have doors on them when you see people go out without washing their hands.

Regards Nick.

[Swarf, Mostly!Participant @swarfmostly]

Hi there, all,

I'm very surprised that there has been no mention of an essential attribute of toilet seats and lids. Namely that when seat and lid are raised, they should be in a state of equilibrium and in no danger of falling closed.

This was not difficult to achieve in the case of toilets that were fitted with the 'Old English Long-drop' elevated cistern and long flush-pipe but I expect these are few and far between nowadays. Fast forward to modern times and the close-coupled suite and I assume that the desired condition is an integral aspect of the geometry of the sanitary hardware.

However, the problem of falling lids/seats might still be experienced in toilets of intermediate age that employ a low installation position for the cistern and a discrete but short flush-pipe.

A politically incorrect acquaintance has occasionally been heard to refer in an exasperated tone to 'damned female plumbers!!'.

Best regards,

Swarf, Mostly!

[Bryan Cedar 1Participant @bryancedar1]

Posted by Swarf, Mostly! on 09/01/2020 16:07:00:

Hi there, all,

I'm very surprised that there has been no mention of an essential attribute of toilet seats and lids. Namely that when seat and lid are raised, they should be in a state of equilibrium and in no danger of falling closed.

This was not difficult to achieve in the case of toilets that were fitted with the 'Old English Long-drop' elevated cistern and long flush-pipe but I expect these are few and far between nowadays. Fast forward to modern times and the close-coupled suite and I assume that the desired condition is an integral aspect of the geometry of the sanitary hardware.

However, the problem of falling lids/seats might still be experienced in toilets of intermediate age that employ a low installation position for the cistern and a discrete but short flush-pipe.

A politically incorrect acquaintance has occasionally been heard to refer in an exasperated tone to 'damned female plumbers!!'.

Best regards,

Swarf, Mostly!

Hi all

Al these comments go to prove that there is no such thing as "Bog Standard." How did this expression come about?

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

Posted by Bryan Cedar 1 on 09/01/2020 16:55:10:

Posted by Swarf, Mostly! on 09/01/2020 16:07:00:

Hi there, all,

This was not difficult to achieve in the case of toilets that were fitted with the 'Old English Long-drop' elevated cistern and long flush-pipe but I expect these are few and far between nowadays. Fast forward to modern times and the close-coupled suite and I assume that the desired condition is an integral aspect of the geometry of the sanitary hardware.

I have what you call a long drop in our upstairs toilet which is at least 32 years old and I reckon it flushes better than the close coupled unit I have downstairs and thats fitted with a S***widisier to get it to the soil pipe.

Martin P

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

Posted by Bryan Cedar 1 on 09/01/2020 16:55:10:

Posted by Swarf, Mostly! on 09/01/2020 16:07:00:

Hi there, all,

This was not difficult to achieve in the case of toilets that were fitted with the 'Old English Long-drop' elevated cistern and long flush-pipe but I expect these are few and far between nowadays. Fast forward to modern times and the close-coupled suite and I assume that the desired condition is an integral aspect of the geometry of the sanitary hardware.

I have what you call a long drop in our upstairs toilet which is at least 32 years old and I reckon it flushes better than the close coupled unit I have downstairs and thats fitted with a S***widisier to get it to the soil pipe.

Martin P

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Most people under fifty have probably never encountered a high level cistern but still use the term 'pulling the chain' on occasions. The old bell mechanism was so reliable, and the pump type not too bad but modern all plastic air operated things are horrendously unreliable. At least we don't have too many of the leaky American flap valves – yet.

Can you still get Jeyes paper packs? Loads of the square dispensers on ebay! solves the problem of which way round to fit it.

Edited By Bazyle on 09/01/2020 17:36:31

[Grindstone CowboyParticipant @grindstonecowboy]

Posted by Bryan Cedar 1 on 09/01/2020 16:55:10:

Hi all

Al these comments go to prove that there is no such thing as "Bog Standard." How did this expression come about?

I have read – but do not have any idea if it is true or not, or just a convenient, plausible story – that Meccano used to come in various sets, including "Box – Standard" and "Box – Deluxe", thus giving rise to two oft-used expressions.

[mark costello 1Participant @markcostello1]

A coworker liked to go to the big sporting events in the big arenas where the wait was long due to just a couple of loos.When He got there They were heavily used and the prior user invariably left the seat up. His solution was to use the side of His shoe to put the seat down. Seems a better way. Told the wifey this and She about upchucked.

[GeorgineerParticipant @georgineer]

Posted by Grindstone Cowboy on 09/01/2020 17:39:06:

I have read – but do not have any idea if it is true or not, or just a convenient, plausible story – that Meccano used to come in various sets, including "Box – Standard" and "Box – Deluxe", thus giving rise to two oft-used expressions.

Hmmm, smacks of etymythology to me, like the explanations of 'sleep tight', 'posh', 'threshold' and many other phrases and sayings we are expected to believe.

George B

[DalboyParticipant @dalboy]

Posted by Bazyle on 09/01/2020 17:32:15:

Most people under fifty have probably never encountered a high level cistern but still use the term 'pulling the chain' on occasions. The old bell mechanism was so reliable, and the pump type not too bad but modern all plastic air operated things are horrendously unreliable. At least we don't have too many of the leaky American flap valves – yet.

Can you still get Jeyes paper packs? Loads of the square dispensers on ebay! solves the problem of which way round to fit it.

Edited By Bazyle on 09/01/2020 17:36:31

They were normally in the outhouse blimey showing my age now

[Grindstone CowboyParticipant @grindstonecowboy]

Posted by Georgineer on 09/01/2020 18:08:15:

Posted by Grindstone Cowboy on 09/01/2020 17:39:06:

I have read – but do not have any idea if it is true or not, or just a convenient, plausible story – that Meccano used to come in various sets, including "Box – Standard" and "Box – Deluxe", thus giving rise to two oft-used expressions.

Hmmm, smacks of etymythology to me, like the explanations of 'sleep tight', 'posh', 'threshold' and many other phrases and sayings we are expected to believe.

George B

You're probably right – I blame that QI program for a lot of it

[Ray LyonsParticipant @raylyons29267]

It is a long time ago now but when I was in Germany, the public toilets were usually supervised by a large lady who would collect a small fee and open the door to the cubicle while handing out a 6 inch square of paper. I always carried a small wad of paper in my pocket for such rare occasions when needed. The urinal was free but in full view of the supervisor. Needless to say we did not hang around there for long.

[John OlsenParticipant @johnolsen79199]

We have got into the habit of always closing the lid down properly ever since we saw a video somewhere of a rat climbing up out of a toilet. They are out there in the sewers and apparently the u bend is no obstacle to a determined rat.

John

[Enough!Participant @enough]

Which gives us (and Georgineer) the origin of "u-dirty rat"

[Nigel Graham 2Participant @nigelgraham2]

I see Harry mentions the famous bananas.

There genuinely was an EU Directive on the shape and size of bananas – though it did not demand they are straight! It placed limits on size and curvature.

It was an example of how poorly the organisation is reported in the UK, leading to those who used the Directive as an example of petty rules gone 'nanas, being called "liars" by their opponents. The bananas rule's existence was really only revealed generally when the EU "repeeled" it, along with a raft of others!

Why was it ever made in the first place? Many of the specific EU regulations are requested by Big Business, in this case the supermarkets.

—

On the old question of Lavatory Seats, the Lowering Thereof…

Those of my age may recall the old BBC radio words-game, "My Word". I forget if on the Light Programme or the Home Service before the Beeb fell for the fashion of using only dull numbers; but it was played by a regular two teams: two men and two women, all writers and literary critics.

I forget the context, but still recall one of the chaps – Frank Muir or Denis Norden – explaining in one edition that Railway Carriage Lavatories used to bear brass plaques with the four words:

Gentlemen Lift The Seat

The speaker pointed out that the lack of punctuation and "Please" rendered this both peremptory command and a definition of a Gentleman.

Which of course also means when we of the Hunter side are taken to task by the Distaff side for leaving the seat up – EU Directives or not -, our defence is of indicating we are true Gentlemen.

I recall as young boy whose family frequently used what had been part of the Southern Railway until only a few years before I was "out-shopped", they also bore signs saying,

Gentlemen adjust your dress before leaving [ the lavatory],

which puzzled me greatly, having never known a chap to wear a dress.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Working in a car factory which used to be a very male environment imagine the surprise when a “lady” turned up for an interview for the post of electrical training instructor. The powerful handshake and deep voice raised a few suspicions. It’s probably fortunate for he/she that they were not offered the post as what we are becoming accustomed to today and largely accept as normal was definitely unusual in the early 80s and the apprentices and maintenance guys would have been unmerciless. I wonder if ladies are advised to adjust their dress before leaving, a friend failed to advise his wife her dress was tucked in to her knickers, I wonder if the laugh was worth the bollocking?

Mike

[larry phelan 1Participant @larryphelan1]

Perfection, Perfection this must be our goal !

What about the toilets which never had a cover [like the ones in most workplaces ] ?

Let us be for ever thankful that our "Betters" have our welfare at heart.

Must say, this is heavy stuff to be taking in so early in the New Year.

Gives me something to think about next time I visit the Loo, who would ever think that such a small room could be so important to the EU ?

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