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[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

For clarity " ISO 100-5E47 – Protocols for the placement of toilet seats and their covers" appears to deal with how they should be left oriented after use; seat up or down and if seat down, lid open or closed…

Neil

[GeorgineerParticipant @georgineer]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 08/01/2020 17:36:44:

For clarity " ISO 100-5E47 – Protocols for the placement of toilet seats and their covers" appears to deal with how they should be left oriented after use; seat up or down and if seat down, lid open or closed…

Neil

In all my years of using loos, I've never known a woman to have the good manners to put the seat up after she's used it…

George

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Georgineer on 08/01/2020 17:40:13:

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 08/01/2020 17:36:44:

For clarity " ISO 100-5E47 – Protocols for the placement of toilet seats and their covers" appears to deal with how they should be left oriented after use; seat up or down and if seat down, lid open or closed…

Neil

In all my years of using loos, I've never known a woman to have the good manners to put the seat up after she's used it…

George

The 'passive aggressive' approach is to always close the lid…

Neil

[Frances IoMParticipant @francesiom58905]

in many loos (ladies for use of) the seat + lid have to be down to operate the flush button

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

Sadly I have to admit that when I enter any toilet I switch the toilet roll around away from the wall before I use it, I've also noticed that you have to drop the toilet lid down to reach the flush button especially on new builds.

Martin P

[Dave HalfordParticipant @davehalford22513]

Posted by duncan webster on 08/01/2020 15:27:12:

There actually is a British Standard (yes British, nothing to do with EU or ISO) for making a cup of tea

And got taught at school where you had to write an essay on it , but then it was the 60's

[Ian Johnson 1Participant @ianjohnson1]

Posted by duncan webster on 08/01/2020 15:27:12:

There actually is a British Standard (yes British, nothing to do with EU or ISO) for making a cup of tea

I'll drink to that!

[Grindstone CowboyParticipant @grindstonecowboy]

Posted by Bandersnatch on 08/01/2020 15:04:43:

I once heard the only logical reason I've noticed(as opposed to blind preference) for doing it one way or the other (in this case towards wall):

…. imagine that you have small kids.

Precisely, Bandersnatch, the main reason for my preference. Also, you can lock the rotation with the back of your hand more easily when tearing off, but that's just a serendipitous side-effect

[Grindstone CowboyParticipant @grindstonecowboy]

Has anyone got the BS method of tea-making handy? I'm trying to teach the wife how to boil water..

(Luckily she doesn't read this forum)

[John ReeseParticipant @johnreese12848]

Posted by Grindstone Cowboy on 08/01/2020 10:41:45:

ISO 100-R011 – at last, something to make people do it the correct way. Which is, of course, paper feeding downwards from the wall side.

Edited By Grindstone Cowboy on 08/01/2020 10:42:38

NOOO I hate trying to pick up the end of paper from the blind side of the roll. That damned standard must have been written by women.

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

The fitting of the loo roll came up in an office discussion, my boss preferred the non wall side as do I, but his wife invariably fitted it wall side. They had a long and happy marriage so it didn’t cause any great problems.

Mike

[Danny M2ZParticipant @dannym2z]

So what ISO standard applies to left handed screwdrivers?

I am not joking, one can buy one here Cromwell Tools

* Danny M *

[martin perman 1Participant @martinperman1]

As a left handed person, cromwell tools surely are taking the mick, what is the not obvious difference.

Martin P

[roy entwistleParticipant @royentwistle24699]

Danny M Will that be the same standard that applies to left handed spanners and hammers ?

Roy ( ambidextrous to a point )

[Danny M2ZParticipant @dannym2z]

Posted by roy entwistle on 09/01/2020 08:44:25:

Danny M Will that be the same standard that applies to left handed spanners and hammers ?

Roy ( ambidextrous to a point )

Just visit this place left hand supplier

Only problem is that they are from down-under so your your items could also be upside down – but handy if you are a lefty and can stand on your head

* Danny M *

[Paul MParticipant @paulm98238]

I am still in discussion with my employer regarding, which newspaper and the size of the squares, and whether to use string or nylon cord. No British Standards seem to have been published.

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi, well my roll is a mobile one and is orientated as shown below and will always be so, whatever anybody else likes or any standards dictate. It is in my opinion, the most efficient and easiest way of usage.

Incidentally, the seat cover should be down during flushing for hygienic reasons, as micro drops of contaminated water can travel quite a distance throughout the room during the flush and land on all your nice clean surfaces in the vicinity including any exposed toilet roll and the bacteria will continue to multiply.

Regards Nick,

[Mike PooleParticipant @mikepoole82104]

Posted by Paul M on 09/01/2020 09:14:23:

I am still in discussion with my employer regarding, which newspaper and the size of the squares, and whether to use string or nylon cord. No British Standards seem to have been published.

The Guardian would give me the most pleasure in this application.

Mike

[GeorgineerParticipant @georgineer]

Posted by duncan webster on 08/01/2020 15:27:12:

There actually is a British Standard (yes British, nothing to do with EU or ISO) for making a cup of tea

While I can't help with tea making, I do have a three-page document for the weekly Plant Maintenance of the Instrument Maintenance Department bicycles at Fawley Power Station. It boils down to "Check the tyre pressures. Inflate as required".

When I was at Fawley in 1971 a Work Study programme was instituted, where every conceivable task was specified in a Time and Motion sort of way. Without a Work Specification a job didn't exist, so couldn't be done. It was a nightmare! This specification was written by my manager, complete with diagram, and I could never establish just how far his tongue was in his cheek when he wrote it.

Unfortunately I only have a very faint photocopy which won't scan successfully, so I can't put it up for your instruction and enlightenment.

George B.

[Bryan Cedar 1Participant @bryancedar1]

Posted by Mike Poole on 09/01/2020 09:29:16:

Posted by Paul M on 09/01/2020 09:14:23:

I am still in discussion with my employer regarding, which newspaper and the size of the squares, and whether to use string or nylon cord. No British Standards seem to have been published.

The Guardian would give me the most pleasure in this application.

Mike

The size of squares reminds me of my experience in the QA hospital at Gosport where the loo paper size was so narrow one had to be careful how you used it !. On my next visit I took my own. At Southampton, the paper was considerably larger. So there should be standards for size. NHS please note

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Nicholas Farr on 09/01/2020 09:17:51:

Incidentally, the seat cover should be down during flushing for hygienic reasons, as micro drops of contaminated water can travel quite a distance throughout the room during the flush and land on all your nice clean surfaces in the vicinity including any exposed toilet roll and the bacteria will continue to multiply.

Regards Nick,

Hi Nick,

I read a report in new Scientist on research that showed the narrow gap left when the seat is down creates a venturi effect and actually spreads the aerosol of contaminated water further.

Bet that's cheered you up.

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Bryan Cedar 1 on 09/01/2020 10:59:23:

The size of squares reminds me of my experience in the QA hospital at Gosport where the loo paper size was so narrow one had to be careful how you used it !. On my next visit I took my own. At Southampton, the paper was considerably larger. So there should be standards for size. NHS please note

Use the Izal Medicated and be grateful

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Mike Poole on 09/01/2020 05:05:49:

The fitting of the loo roll came up in an office discussion, my boss preferred the non wall side as do I, but his wife invariably fitted it wall side. They had a long and happy marriage so it didn’t cause any great problems.

Mike

It once Caused a heated discussion at a staff meeting I attended

Neil

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 09/01/2020 11:28:53

[DalboyParticipant @dalboy]

There is only one legislation that applies in my workshop

[HopperParticipant @hopper]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 09/01/2020 11:25:14:

Posted by Nicholas Farr on 09/01/2020 09:17:51:

Incidentally, the seat cover should be down during flushing for hygienic reasons, as micro drops of contaminated water can travel quite a distance throughout the room during the flush and land on all your nice clean surfaces in the vicinity including any exposed toilet roll and the bacteria will continue to multiply.

Regards Nick,

Hi Nick,

I read a report in new Scientist on research that showed the narrow gap left when the seat is down creates a venturi effect and actually spreads the aerosol of contaminated water further.

Bet that's cheered you up.

Neil

So they need legislation to mandate a rubber seal ring under the seat.

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