Mystery tooling

[damianParticipant @damiannoble34800]

Hi all,

Quite a long time since I’ve posted on here but hoping someone could shed knowledge on this pair of tools I picked up with some others in a box?

I think they are some sort of revolving tailstock centre for woodworking as the tops spin on what seems very smooth bearings. They have the flats on the fixed end which have had a retaining screw wound down on them.

Would be interested if any one here has ever seen anything like them.

Thank in advance for any info

Damian

[damianParticipant @damiannoble34800]

Apologies if this is in the wrong section

[HollowpointParticipant @hollowpoint]

Yes for woodworking. Rose or drive prong I think.

[damianParticipant @damiannoble34800]

Cheers for the reply

I’ve seen the morse taper drives but these have a bearing so assume tailstock to hold something like a spindle between the headstock drive and tailstock.

Cant understand the springs?

 

[Nicholas FarrParticipant @nicholasfarr14254]

Hi damian, I guess those prongs will dig into the wood to a certain extent, depending on how hard the wood is, and the springs would help release the wood from them, without undue damage.

Regards Nick.

[damianParticipant @damiannoble34800]

Thanks Nick

Not sure, but it sounds like a good explanation of the springs.

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

The springs would hold small dowels or squares used for pen making or lace bobbins while the work is being tightened.

[VicParticipant @vic]

I’ve been wood turning for some years and I’ve not seen anything quite like these before. Superficially they look somewhat similar to a Crown Centre but with the addition of those strange wires. Quite dangerous for any turning work I would have thought?

[DalboyParticipant @dalboy]

Like Vic I have been wood turning for years and have never seen anything like these, I also make pens and again not used in that part of wood turning.

At first, I thought they were for putting a chamfer an end of a rod and the wire springs to help centralise the rod, but there was not any sign of cutting edges.

 

[parovozParticipant @parovoz]

External chamfering tools. Had one years ago for chamfering the ends of RF rigid cables.

 

Regards.

[damianParticipant @damiannoble34800]

Out of interest I unscrewed the top to expose tge bearing. If it was for chamfering it would be solid all the way through.

 

[bernard towersParticipant @bernardtowers37738]

Similar to clockmakers chamfering tools except for the spring

[Roderick JenkinsParticipant @roderickjenkins93242]

I cheated and according to Google lens it’s a shotgun shell crimping tool.  Still looking for a video of one in action.

Rod

[Roderick Jenkins]

On Roderick Jenkins Said:

I cheated and according to Google lens it’s a shotgun shell crimping tool.  Still looking for a video of one in action.

Rod

Obvious now you mention it! 😆 Not sure why it needs a bearing though?

[Roderick Jenkins]

On Roderick Jenkins Said:

I cheated and according to Google lens it’s a shotgun shell crimping tool.  Still looking for a video of one in action.

Rod

I had originally put it into Google myself and been told it was a shotgun casing deburring tool. But when I looked at them they were all solid with no bearing.

I’m beginning to think these are one off tools made by someone for a specific job? I did think the spring part might be for wrapping something with cotton or twine a little bit like you would rings on a fishing rod?

 

 

 

[DiogenesParticipant @diogenes]

I think the shell is spun and the die drops over on a hinge – it has to persuade the upper 1/2D edge of the case to ‘fall over’ – so it has to be free to rotate with the shell…

[parovozParticipant @parovoz]

Ahhhh OK…. That makes sense….  Never saw the bearing at the back on the original post…..  But I still did have an external chamfering tool….. Looked identical apart from the springs…. 🙂

[roy entwistleParticipant @royentwistle24699]

They’re not for crimping shotgun cartridges. Pehaps for supporting something long and whippy like snooker cues whilst the thick end of the cue is chucked

Roy

[noel shelleyParticipant @noelshelley55608]

It’s a self aligning crimp starter for reloading shot gun cartridges, used to use one back in the 70s when rabbits were a real problem. Also made a simple device to pop out the cap and press in a new one using a Wolf drill stand, still have it somewhere. Noel

[noel shelley]

On noel shelley Said:

It’s a self aligning crimp starter for reloading shot gun cartridges, used to use one back in the 70s when rabbits were a real problem. Also made a simple device to pop out the cap and press in a new one using a Wolf drill stand, still have it somewhere. Noel

Yes, we can see that now. With the correct search term, various very similar tools appear. Having now watched a similar tool in a video I understand the need for a bearing now. But not the wires?

[noel shelley]

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On noel shelley Said:

It’s a self aligning crimp starter for reloading shot gun cartridges, used to use one back in the 70s when rabbits were a real problem. Also made a simple device to pop out the cap and press in a new one using a Wolf drill stand, still have it somewhere. Noel

<p style=”text-align: left;”>Ah right.</p>
<p style=”text-align: left;”>I see where the bearing comes in now if you’re pressing them in with a screw driven press a bit like a g clamp the end needs to remain stationary.</p>
Looks like the mystery is finally solved. Not sure what I’m going to do with them as I guess their redundant nowadays

[SillyOldDufferModerator @sillyoldduffer]

Fascinating, I presume for star crimping as on the right in this photo ?

Just a thought, but maybe the bearing means they’re from a cartridge manufacturing machine, not a simplified home hand-loader.  The machine spits an endless supply of crimped cartridges out automatically, and the spring wires are part of it’s feed/ejection mechanism.

Dave

[SillyOldDuffer]

On SillyOldDuffer Said:

Fascinating, I presume for star crimping as on the right in this photo ?

Just a thought, but maybe the bearing means they’re from a cartridge manufacturing machine, not a simplified home hand-loader.  The machine spits an endless supply of crimped cartridges out automatically, and the spring wires are part of it’s feed/ejection mechanism.

Dave

I guess they could be? Thanks for all the comments and research everyone.

They’re off to a new home, one of the lads at work is into shooting and knew what they were straight away, so I’m passing them onto him.

Damian

 

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