Cutting “tang” off MT5 sleeve?

[Hamish McNabParticipant @hamishmcnab62554]

[Hamish McNabParticipant @hamishmcnab62554]

I am considering purchasing a collet chuck. My lathe is a Colchester Student with a MT5 taper in the "headstock" I have a number of sleeves and would ask if there would be any problems cutting the tang off so I can use a drawbar to pull the chuck tight. Will have other newbee questions but will take it a step at a time.

Thanks in anticipation.

[Thor 🇳🇴Participant @thor]

Hi Hamish,

I have cut the tang off a MT5 to MT 3 sleeve to be able to use a drawbar. The one I cut was casehardened so I mounted the sleeve in the lathe and used a carbide tipped tool to turn away the hard skin first. Whether your sleeve is just case hardened or hardened through I don't know. If it is through hardened you could finish with an angle grinder.

Thor

[Bob Brown 1Participant @bobbrown1]

On the face of it a simple enough job but how do you remove the adapter if it sticks in the headstock?

one option is a piece of bar up the end or a sleeve like this

or a MT5 ER40 collet chuck like this one **LINK**

 

Bob

BTW there are these 5 to 3 at £9.10 http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/catalogue/adaptors-sleeves

 

Edited By Bob Brown 1 on 14/12/2014 15:32:44

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

Use an angle grinder, so whether it's case/through hardened job done in one go & if you're careful to cut through reasonably square just dress the end & Bob's your auntie… Mabel's your uncle…. Hmmm .. . I have the same situation but I bought a MT4 collet chuck with drawbar thread M12… works fine.

George.

Oooops M16 drawbar …

http://www.ctctools.biz/servlet/the-125/ER25-MT4-COLLET-CHUCK/Detail

Edited By mechman48 on 14/12/2014 15:42:15

[Bob Brown 1Participant @bobbrown1]

"Bob's your auntie… "

No I'm not!

[Thor 🇳🇴Participant @thor]

Hi Bob,

When the MT5 to MT 3 reducing sleeve has it tang cut off the wall thickness is thick enough so there is no problem knocking it out with a copper rod or similar. I have never had any problems getting the sleeve out of my lathe. You don't need to hammer Morse taper tools hard into the taper, just makes them more difficult to get out.

Thor

[Hamish McNabParticipant @hamishmcnab62554]

Thanks for all the info. That's a task for tomorrow

[Bob Brown 1Participant @bobbrown1]

Thor,

I had a similar situation all be it MT2 collet chuck and headstock MT3 so purchase the one I pictured above as the draw bar does tend to pull them in quite tight even with a light pressure on the nut. In the end purchased one that fitted the normal chuck mount with the aid of a back plate as it allows the bar to pass through the headstock.

like these http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Collets/ER-Lathe-Collet-Chucks

Bob

Edited By Bob Brown 1 on 14/12/2014 15:43:57

[Thor 🇳🇴Participant @thor]

Hi Bob,

I agree that for a MT3 to MT2 sleeve the ones with an ejection nut – like you showed in your post – is the one to get, have one of them in fact that I use when I use MT2 tooling in my milling machine.

Thor

Edited By Thor on 14/12/2014 15:48:08

[Dave plus / minus 40 thouParticipant @daveplusminus40thou]

Hi Hamish,

my 1800 student has an MT4.5 in the headstock – are you sure your is MT5? – the odd size is apprently related to 5c collets. i am planning to machine down an MT5 taper (with a femail MT3) to do the same job then use an MT3 to ER32

this adaptor is on Ebay with an hour to go which is what i really need – currently £45……..

**LINK**

Dave

[Hamish McNabParticipant @hamishmcnab62554]

Thanks for the info Dave. According to the lathe manual the spindle nose is an American LO which I understand is the same as a MT5. I have two M5 sleeves and they appear to fit in nice and tight. Will try some blue just to check

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