Hi, I’m new here so please bear with me. I thought this should perhaps be be under Help of Assistance, but though it best to start here.
Vintage three ring burner.
Gas Tap Valves.
I’ll get right into it…
The valve barrels with their tapered tap valves, are what I’m looking to find a solution for. One of these had snapped off at the valve bracket. Fortunately, knowing a few folk in the business, some friends were able to machine up a replacement brass barrel in their spare time. Fitting the existing male taper ‘key’ valve to the new female taper has been the challenge. That part is machined, I’m now looking to find how to get the tolerances of the whole tapered valve/s to slip fit perfectly.
The construction of the valve is a brass barrel with a tapered hole into which the male tapered ‘key’ valve fits to create a gas tight fit. This is operated between on and off through a 90˚motion. This ‘key’ valve is held in place with a UNF1/4 thread, a tag washer, a spring washer and captive nut.
A 1/15 ratio reamer taper which is a taper of approximately 3.8˚ from the axis, was used to form the new barrel taper, but these are approximations that I do not have the metrology to attain exactitude, and have yet to find how to make the slight discrepancy of taper angles between old and new, slip fit to tolerance. I have tried various specialist gas related sealers/ lubricants and tapes which have improved matters, but a tiny amount of play is still present.
Forming ideas for the slip fit went as follows: some lapping paste, maybe >400grit, but the thinking was that that would ultimately deform the planes of both conical tapers, abrading the old as well as the new, deforming the original reference. On to the next idea!
The next idea was to temporarily glue (with bearing retainer) emery paper to the ‘key’ tapers which are original and in good condition, having no light coming through on a flat test of their planes, these could be ‘former’ to the newly machined barrel taper. The difficulty was that emery paper could not be gotten thin enough to reach the lower, narrowest part of the new barrel taper hole in that arrangement. This re-profiling using the ‘former’ idea was done by hand, concentricity was a concern, but after several sessions of minute material removal, this did make a difference improving matters. Once assembled the leaks had reduced to small ‘buds’ when ignited, but not gas tight, and as you might conclude, that’s not acceptable. The relative height of the key tapers in operating situ and making these tapers deeper or altering the original ‘key’ tapers in any way did not seem wise, so the project was shelved.
The narrow taper ø is 8.9mm probably aiming for 11/32″, the wider taper ø is 10.4mm engineered for 13/32″ across 1/2″
My lack of equipment to accurately measure and then hone (if thats the right word) very particular conical taper angles is the challenge. With the right equipment, it’s a twenty minute task for three valves.
A full length male taper without the hole of the original, with the exact same angle with an even abrasive applied that could fit in a chuck, was as far as my thinking got.
This is the last hurdle on the restoration, which I would really like this not to become a door stop!
So here I am, hopping to impress upon some one with more experience than my self what the solution may be to getting these taper valves gas tight?
This is what it looks like:

General assembly:
Frame 18″ cast
Burner, cast
Valve bracket, cast
Valve barrels, brass

Foundry Logo?, manufacturer unknown

As you can see most of the work is done, it’s no longer a ball of orange rust. It now stands. It blows clear, it has valves and all leaks have been identified and sealed with the correct compounds.



This is the new valve internal that requires a slight internal re-profiling as mentioned above:

The air intake/ oxygen mix adjusters are quite loose due to being thin, I think 1/6″ from memory, they have a habit of rusting up.
They could do with being 1/8′ thick in brass with a interference fit for stability, this would complete the refit.