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    tsb
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      What diameter bar do I need, to use a 6mm die.

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      tsb
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        #65365
        Mogens Kilde
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          Well – If you mean to cut a metric M6 thread, you should use a Ø6 mm bar – approx. 1/4″ in imperial measure
           
          Mogens
           

          Edited By David Clark 1 on 13/03/2011 10:31:21

          #65366
          dcosta
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            @dcosta
            Hello Mogens!
             
            Because I am interested in information You may have in Your site related to opening thread in bar using die, I visited Your site but could no found that information.

            Can You please be more specific on the way to find that information in Your pages? Please…

            Thanks in advance
            Dias Costa

            #65368
            JasonB
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              @jasonb
              I think the link is just part of Mogens signiture, not a link to using a Die.
               
              David, Morgens link also takes you to his commercial site where you can buy plans, is advertising in this form permitted on the forum??
               
              Jason
              #65369
              Terryd
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                @terryd72465
                Hi tsb and Dias,
                 
                Any metric thread is measured and signified by the nominal diameter of the male thread e.g. the bolt. Hence M4 is made from 4mm bar, M6 from 6mm bar, M8 from 8mm bar and so on. When using a tap to cut a thread the nominal diameter of the hole is measured from the bottom of the thread, plus a bit of clearance. these tapping diameters are to be found in standard tables.
                 
                You can get a very useful free utility program giving all the information about threads and much, much more data from Colin Usher’s site, it is called ‘Model Engineers Utilities‘.
                 
                Regards
                 
                Terry

                Edited By Terryd on 12/03/2011 07:54:35

                #65371
                JasonB
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                  @jasonb
                  Unless its a rolled thread which uses smaller than nominal bar but thats a bit outside ME practice
                   
                  Same with tread forming taps they use a larger tapping drill
                   
                  J

                  Edited By JasonB on 12/03/2011 08:28:39

                  #65374
                  Ian S C
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                    @iansc
                    Jason, related to rolled threads, a few months ago I was given a few fluteless taps,2BA, 6BA and 8BA, the tapping sizes are a wee bit bigger than normal, as the thread is not cut, but formed much the same as a rolled thread. I was a wee bit worried as my book says machine only, and the smallest should be run in at 22,000rpm, so I put a 6BA tap in my tap wrench, took a bit of aluminium , drilled it,and put the tap through, it just sailed through, much easier than a conventional one, the 2BA went just the same, tried it on brass, just the same. They are not for use on steel. Ian S C
                    #65385
                    JasonB
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                      @jasonb
                      Yes good in softer materials, though I probably wouldn’t risk the smaller sizes in hard brass.
                       
                      J
                      #65397
                      Ian S C
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                        @iansc
                        Jason, I tend to agree.
                        I suppose that the nearest thing that one could find for rolling external threads would be one of those machines for threading spokes, it uses three rollers, and is hand cranked. Its not impossible to find one of these, I got one at a second hand shop in Christchurch NZ about 20 years ago, it went to a collector working in a bike shop. It had a complete set of rollers. Ian S C
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