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  • #452440
    Robin Graham
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      @robingraham42208

      It's obviously not a good idea to use the same password for every internet service, nor is it a good idea to write passwords down on paper. But, in my dotage, I can't remember them all.

      I wonder if there is any software which would allow me to encrypt my various passwords, using a memorable key, write the encrytped versions down, then decrypt them with the same memorised key if necessary?

      Anyone out there who knows about this stuff?

      Robin.

      #35758
      Robin Graham
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        @robingraham42208
        #452443
        peak4
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          @peak4

          Whilst I don't use it myself, largely though inertia, KeePass seems highly regarded.
          I think it was just being introduced for internal use by my employer before I retired.
          At the moment I'm still using a notebook, which lives in a proper safe, as the thought of transcribing several hundred accounts is a little daunting.

          Bill

          #452445
          Enough!
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            @enough

            Google for: ' password manager '

            #452449
            pgk pgk
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              @pgkpgk17461

              Passwords on paper is about as secure as you practically need to be – they cannot be hacked remotely. It's unlikely that a quick opportunist burglar is going to go hunting for a piece of paper tucked somewhere. A nasty burgar type determined to get your passwords – should such exist – and you're going to tell them anyway and open any.safe.

              Anyone with several hundred different passwords might consider what benefit that has. Does it really matter if someone hacks into your access here (for instance) compared to the few worrying accounts might mine own such as 3 or 4 banks a couple of credit cards an online shop or two etc

              #452452
              Gary Wooding
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                @garywooding25363

                You need a password manager. There are lots available, some are totally free and some require a subscription. The one I use is called Keepass

                Its totally free and there are compatible versions for Windows, Android, iPhone, Linux, etc.

                The master repository is password protected – if you loose it's password you are royally stuffed. My safe contains in excess of 100 passwords.

                #452455
                Ady1
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                  @ady1

                  I use non words which are easy to remember

                  robinspanner321

                  robinfido1

                  Just make up your own unique system and throw in numbers etc

                  The safest most secure and convenient place is inside your head

                  Edited By Ady1 on 16/02/2020 08:00:21

                  #452456
                  martin perman 1
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                    @martinperman1
                    Posted by Ady1 on 16/02/2020 07:58:46:

                    The safest most secure and convenient place is inside your head

                    Edited By Ady1 on 16/02/2020 08:00:21

                    Sadly I have to disagree that your head is the safest place, many a time I've stood in a shop because I cant recall my card no, I have my own method of recording the number which doesnt involve pen and paper apart from the master kept at home.

                    Martin P

                    #452457
                    Anthony Knights
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                      @anthonyknights16741

                      It has never seen sensible to me, to keep your computer passwords in your computer where they can possibly be hacked. I cannot remember mine, so they are written down in an A5 ring binder so I can easily change individual pages when I change passwords. I live on my own and the book is in a safe place, but easily accessible when I need it. Lets see if the nerds can hack my notebook.

                      Edited By Anthony Knights on 16/02/2020 08:27:32

                      #452458
                      Sandgrounder
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                        @sandgrounder
                        Posted by pgk pgk on 16/02/2020 06:25:39:

                        Passwords on paper is about as secure as you practically need to be – they cannot be hacked remotely. It's unlikely that a quick opportunist burglar is going to go hunting for a piece of paper tucked somewhere. A nasty burgar type determined to get your passwords – should such exist – and you're going to tell them anyway and open any.safe.

                        Anyone with several hundred different passwords might consider what benefit that has. Does it really matter if someone hacks into your access here (for instance) compared to the few worrying accounts might mine own such as 3 or 4 banks a couple of credit cards an online shop or two etc

                        Exactly my way of thinking, if needed, a few critical passwords can be places or events that are easy to remember, so a password could be the first school I went to and thats what I would write down to remind me what it is, for example Amazon = 1st School.

                        #452460
                        Michael Gilligan
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                          @michaelgilligan61133
                          Posted by Sandgrounder on 16/02/2020 08:25:13:

                          Posted by pgk pgk on 16/02/2020 06:25:39:

                          […]
                          Anyone with several hundred different passwords might consider what benefit that has. Does it really matter if someone hacks into your access here (for instance) compared to the few worrying accounts might mine own such as 3 or 4 banks a couple of credit cards an online shop or two etc

                          Exactly my way of thinking, if needed, a few critical passwords can be places or events that are easy to remember, so a password could be the first school I went to and thats what I would write down to remind me what it is, for example Amazon = 1st School.

                          .

                          It’s also wise not to disclose such detail on a public forum angel

                          MichaelG.

                          #452463
                          Paul M
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                            @paulm98238

                            I use 1Password which generates and stores passwords. I only need to remember the master password.

                            It is not whether you use a password manager or use paper copies, it's how you create your password. Using words and numbers alone such as Loco265 is not very secure as computers these days can run through a dictionary of words in a fraction of a second and try billions of combinations.

                            If you are going to use words then a password such as nuthatch-bereave-selfsame-laos is more advisable.

                            This video is worth a look.

                            #452464
                            Ady1
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                              @ady1

                              Sadly I have to disagree that your head is the safest place, many a time I've stood in a shop because I cant recall my card no

                              Use the years

                              so 5375

                              ascent of everest

                              end of vietnam war

                              1953

                              1975

                              Edited By Ady1 on 16/02/2020 09:27:21

                              #452466
                              pgk pgk
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                                @pgkpgk17461

                                I you really want to keep something safe give it to my wife…not even she will ever find it again…

                                #452467
                                Adam Mara
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                                  @adammara

                                  For day to day use on 'unimportant' sites, I use a combination of my late dads 'Ham' radio call sign, and my grandfathers telephone number which I inherited when I married in 1965, Easily remembered, until BT in their wisdom issued us with a new phone number in one of their 'upgrades'.

                                  #452468
                                  Ady1
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                                    @ady1

                                    yup

                                    old phone numbers and car numberplates

                                    For some reason I never forgot my first car, I was the proud owner of a jobby brown escort

                                    ("aztec bronze" being the official colour)

                                    Edited By Ady1 on 16/02/2020 09:26:14

                                    #452479
                                    Sandgrounder
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                                      @sandgrounder
                                      Posted by Michael Gilligan on 16/02/2020 08:46:54:

                                      Posted by Sandgrounder on 16/02/2020 08:25:13:

                                      Exactly my way of thinking, if needed, a few critical passwords can be places or events that are easy to remember, so a password could be the first school I went to and thats what I would write down to remind me what it is, for example Amazon = 1st School.

                                      .

                                      It’s also wise not to disclose such detail on a public forum angel

                                      MichaelG.

                                      I agree with you and that's why I used it as an example, I don't have an Amazon account or use my school name as a password, and even if I did there's almost certainly no one alive who knows it or records available as to the name or location of my first school.

                                      #452497
                                      Simon Barr
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                                        @simonbarr48213

                                        Another vote for KeePass here. I've been using it for a long time now as I'm an open source fan. If you decide to use it make sure that you keep backups of the file and a note of the main password in a safe place. If you lose the main password it is game over and everything in the file is lost forever.

                                        #452499
                                        Speedy Builder5
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                                          @speedybuilder5

                                          Its difficult to have an easy rule to remember different passwords. As soon as you have developed your own rule, a password will need a special character or like UK Tax office, only a selection of special characters. Then some sites demand a change of password if you have not used it for some time. basically, you can't have a single rule.

                                          #452502
                                          blowlamp
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                                            @blowlamp

                                            Password Manager here is free and seems like it would do the job.

                                            Martin.

                                            #452508
                                            V8Eng
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                                              @v8eng

                                              Worth looking at Sandisk USB Memory Sticks for storage. The ones I have come password protected, better than bits of paper just one long password to remember.

                                              Edited By V8Eng on 16/02/2020 14:41:16

                                              Edited By V8Eng on 16/02/2020 14:51:05

                                              #452518
                                              Douglas Johnston
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                                                @douglasjohnston98463

                                                I think we have to be practical about passwords. I am at an age where memory cells seem to be diminishing at a disturbing rate and it is simply not practical to remember dozens of passwords. Lets be honest, most of us write passwords down somewhere and the chance of this getting into the hands of some dodgy character is remote. It is easy to hide a tree in a forest, so apply that idea to a notebook.

                                                Doug

                                                #452568
                                                mark costello 1
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                                                  @markcostello1

                                                  At work is real easy, We had a machine named similar to"Best Metal Lathe Company." My password was Best metal lathe Co. operator. I could assess it by looking across the aisle.

                                                  #452574
                                                  Robin Graham
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                                                    @robingraham42208

                                                    Thanks. I agree with the logic of those who say that writing down on paper is probably pretty secure. No burglar in their right mind is going to waste time going through 1000+ volumes on the bookcases on the off chance that one might contain a slip of paper with something interesting written on it. But I'm irrational and it just feels wrong! I'd probably forget where where I'd put the list anyway – I'm hopelessly chaotic in the real world, lose or misplace almost everything, but methodical and tidy with computers.

                                                    KeePass looks to be just what I am after. It seems to be Windows only, but a native Linux port in the form of KeePassXC exists and I have installed that.

                                                    Problem solved, thanks again, Robin.

                                                    #452603
                                                    Trevorh
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                                                      @trevorh

                                                      I Use Lastpass its free and secure as any other where it will generate unique passwords for you as well as auto fill the details if you want it to

                                                      it assesses the strength of the password and sit there in the background waiting for you to open a site and it will ask if you want it to complete the username and generate a password

                                                      it was was recommended by my son who is a professional computer programmer

                                                      I have been using the basic version (free) for several years now

                                                      Cheers Trevor

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