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  • #143148
    Trevorh
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      @trevorh

      I have a project that calls for some Aluminium round bar to be coloured permanently, what options do I have, what colours?

      it will be a type of Handle/Grip similar to the handle on a sword or staff

      thanks

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      Trevorh
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        @trevorh
        #143154
        ian cable
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          @iancable23486

          hi, you don't state the colour you intend to use .Normaley aluminium is done by colour passivate, a local plating company will probably fill your requirement.If its to be handled a lot allochrome plating is harder and will last longer , hope this pus you in the right direction.

          #143155
          Trevorh
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            @trevorh

            Thanks Ian,

            I don't have any preference as long as its not the original colour of the aluminium, probably Black or any other strong colour such as Red or Blue, that's the reason for the question really as I am not sure what is available out there.

            I don't really want to paint it as I am not sure of the finish I could get

            cheers

            #143157
            Trevorh
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              @trevorh

              The part that I am making or will be is a customised Light sabre handle – don't ask!

              but non the less it needs to be coloured

              cheers

              #143160
              Roderick Jenkins
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                @roderickjenkins93242

                The technique you need is anodising. Basically the part is treated electrolitically as the anode in a bath of weak sulphuric acid. The part is then soaked in a dye solution (cloth dyes or writing ink) and then boiled in water to seal the colour in. There is quite a lot about home anodising on the web for example.

                HTH

                Rod

                #143162
                Trevorh
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                  @trevorh

                  Hi Rod,

                  Thanks for the link, that is exactly what I'm after

                  That's my weekend sorted then

                  cheers

                  #143167
                  ian cable
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                    @iancable23486

                    rods correct im wrong not passivate I ment anodise sorry to miss inform you ian

                    #143183
                    JasonB
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                      @jasonb

                      If you look at the top of the homepage the cover of ME has Ramon's engines which have been anodised, he did an article in MEW a while back on how to do it.

                      J

                      #143202
                      Barnaby Wilde
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                        @barnabywilde70941

                        I've been successfully anodising aluminium in my shed for 5+yrs, if/when you find you need a helping hand then give us a shout.

                        P.S. Black is one of the easiest colours to achieve an impressive result with. It is also the least forgiving, if you find that you can only turn out various shades of blue, I can help.

                        #143229
                        Chris123
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                          @chris123

                          http://www.intrincycle.co.uk

                          happy to do small orders

                          #143237
                          Phil H 1
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                            @philh1

                            Mick,

                            I have been asked to machine a component for a Porsche (I haven't seen the sample yet) which needs to have a black finish. I have never tried to coat anything but I am due to get the opportunity (via redundancy) to spend a great deal of time trying. Any starter pointers would be greatly appreciated.

                            Phil H

                            #143248
                            Chris123
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                              @chris123

                              Anodising new parts is relatively easy if it is a good grade of aluminum.

                              How big is the part?

                               

                              Bear in mind that using some battery acid with a car battery charger and food colouring isn't going to work.

                              You you need to buy decent stuff in the first place. You also need to consider cooling for the tank (if it will get a lot of use).

                              Dye tanks, stripping tanks (not always), sealing tanks need to be heated to. Generally between 40-100c so you can't use fish tank heaters.

                               

                              Gateros Plating are good for stuff.

                              Caswell claim their products work miracles, take anything on their website with a pinch of salt.

                               

                              I've been umming and arring over starting an anodising forum for the past year…

                              Edited By Chris123 on 08/02/2014 15:20:03

                              #143259
                              Barnaby Wilde
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                                @barnabywilde70941

                                Working with a battery charger can work well but good results will take a lot of trial & error.

                                Using Caswell's LCD method it is extremely easy to achieve good finishes with very repeatable results. The only thing I feel you need to splash money on is a constant current power supply to replace the battery charger.

                                My acid bath runs at a temp of 20-22 deg C which I maintain using an aquarium heater & the ambient temp of my shed.

                                There are lots of ways to anodise a part cheaply but if you wish to dye the part, especially black, then you need to 'grow' the anodise in a controlled manner.

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                                Barnaby Wilde
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                                  @barnabywilde70941
                                  Posted by Phil H 1 on 08/02/2014 12:02:07:

                                  Mick,

                                  I have been asked to machine a component for a Porsche (I haven't seen the sample yet) which needs to have a black finish. I have never tried to coat anything but I am due to get the opportunity (via redundancy) to spend a great deal of time trying. Any starter pointers would be greatly appreciated.

                                  Phil H

                                  Will you be making just the one or are you looking to make several?

                                  How big is it?

                                  If it's just the one off then find your nearest pro anodiser & leave it to 'em. If you're looking to make several then setting yourself up to do it can be a worthwhile learning experience, yet rarely cost effective. If you're looking to do it repeatedly with small batch's of parts then it pays to set yourself up right first time.

                                  If you just want to do it for the experience & to hell with the £££ cost & damn the potential consequences, then I'm your man.

                                  #143317
                                  Phil H 1
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                                    @philh1

                                    Mick,

                                    Thanks for the response.

                                    I haven't seen the part yet but from its description – it is an 'L' shape bracket with milled slots on its underside and smooth curved surfaces on its top. Dimensions? I'm guessing 70mm long x 50mm wide with the legs of the 'L' being say 20mm x 10mm section i.e., the part would easily fit in your hand. I would try something like HE30 to machine the part from solid.

                                    I'm doing 1 as a favour for a chap who has a Porsche but he says it is a very common fault on these particular models so who knows?

                                    I'm definitely not in this for profit. It is just because he sits next to me at work (at the moment) and he knows I have a miller. However, I have often thought it might be nice to utilise aluminium for say stationary steam engine bases that would look nice with a camera type satin black finish.

                                    The answer might be to get the Porsche part professionally coated but Im still interested for future parts.

                                    Phil H

                                    #143348
                                    jason udall
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                                      @jasonudall57142

                                      HE30 anodises beautifully. .

                                      .
                                      Only thing is even pro anodising ( well the black dye) two batches can’t be guaranteed to match…..
                                      As to weather to home brew anodise..dependes on how much work is in part..if doing a handful to get one right is ok..

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