Help to identify Myford Lathe

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8 July 2020 at 18:22 #13972
herbert punter
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A friend would like to know about his late grandfathers lathe
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8 July 2020 at 18:22 #484614
herbert punter
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8 July 2020 at 18:34 #484616
Bazyle
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Have a look on this site for details. It looks like either an ML2 or ML4.
8 July 2020 at 18:42 #484619
Dave Halford
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Novel remote oiling system.
8 July 2020 at 18:55 #484621
herbert punter
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Thanks for that Bazyle I did email lathes.co.uk but got so far no response.

I don’t know much about Myfords so I thought I would ask here.

Our friend would like to know how much to ask for it as they need to clear the place out.

Any input would be appreciated.

Bert
8 July 2020 at 19:17 #484624
Ady1
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50quid for the first guy who picks it up or a bidding war on ebay and hope the winner comes to get it

A bunch of tooling puts the price up

It's a very basic simple pre war unit

edit: …with a novel remote oiling system…

Edited By Ady1 on 08/07/2020 19:19:02
8 July 2020 at 19:49 #484627
Bazyle
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Tony ha a loton his plate so may not be able to reply to emails espcially without teh cruical details. If you read the link I gave it provides two key points for idntification between the ML1,2,3,4 of which it is definitely one. The 1 & 3 have 15in between centres (exclude chuck and tailstock retracted) and the 2 & 4 are 24in. Don't be picky about the tolerance think like a salesman. The other point is the 1 & 2 have a lower centre height than the 3 & 4, can't remember the figures.
8 July 2020 at 20:23 #484635
Georgineer
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To quote a post I made in an earlier thread:

"Some simple measurements and observations can identify which of the different models ML1 to ML4 one is faced with:

ML1 & 2: 3 1/8" centre height, 15" between centres, 3 1/2" cross slide travel.

ML3 & 4: 3 1/2" centre height, 24" between centres, 4 1/2" cross slide travel.

ML1 & 3 ('Standard' models): Spindle bearings direct in headstock.

ML2 & 4 ('Superior' models): Bronze spindle bearings, shrouded ball thrust race.

My understanding from lathes.co.uk is that the cast-in headstock was abandoned in 1937, so from then until the ML1 and ML3 went out of production in 1941, all models had the removable headstock."

The ML4 used three different spindle nose threads, Earlier ones 7/8" x 9tpi or 7/8" x 12 tpi. Later ones used 1 1/8" x 12 tpi, the same as the ML7 but with a smaller register diameter. I don't know what threads were used on the ML 1,2 &3 but they would almost certainly have been the same.

George B.
9 July 2020 at 00:34 #484666
Bazyle
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Thanks for correcting me on the length George.
9 July 2020 at 08:45 #484687
herbert punter
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Thank you chaps, that’s very helpful

Bert
9 July 2020 at 17:26 #484785
Howard Lewis
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It looks as if the cover for the changewheels is missing.

Most were top hinged from a bar in a bracket bolted to the reat of the Headstock. Some guards were side hinged, but, this was a rarer version, I think.

Read up on Lathes UK website for Myford ML 1, 2,3, and 4

The Leadscrew should be 8 tpi, but beware of the Cross and Top slides. These are 12 tpi, with 80 divisions on the dial, so that each division is slightly more a thousandth of an inch.

All threads will be Whitworth form, either BSW or BSF, except, possibly gib adjusters which might be BA.

The Tailstock cross adjustment is not the best design feature, but with care, suffices.

HTH

Howard
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