Duomo VM-20 (Bridgeport clone) power feed

Advert

Duomo VM-20 (Bridgeport clone) power feed

Home Forums Manual machine tools Duomo VM-20 (Bridgeport clone) power feed

Viewing 21 posts - 1 through 21 (of 21 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #12421
    Allan Plant 1
    Participant
      @allanplant1

      Gear Stripped

      Advert
      #179347
      Allan Plant 1
      Participant
        @allanplant1

        The gear has stripped on the bottom of my power feed, are they available?

        it's a Chuan Siang

        Type 1000A

        Date 1985

        No. 5026

        Fingers crossed!

        #179352
        Allan Plant 1
        Participant
          @allanplant1

          img_3657.jpg

          #179360
          John Stevenson 1
          Participant
            @johnstevenson1

            Have you looked in the bottom of the cover as they often pack a spare gear there ?

            Edited By John Stevenson on 11/02/2015 14:46:22

            #179364
            Neil Wyatt
            Moderator
              @neilwyatt

              HI Allan, a few calcs suggest that it might be a 30 DP gear, the problem you may have is finding a replacement with the right helix angle.

              Is it the bore or the teeth that have stripped?

              Neil

              #179383
              john fletcher 1
              Participant
                @johnfletcher1

                I suggest you contact HPC gears of Chesterfield their phone number was 01246 268080, but you will need to know the gear technical details.Ted

                #179385
                Allan Plant 1
                Participant
                  @allanplant1
                  Posted by John Stevenson on 11/02/2015 14:45:56:

                  Have you looked in the bottom of the cover as they often pack a spare gear there ?

                  Edited By John Stevenson on 11/02/2015 14:46:22

                  The covers were missing from the drives unfortunately.

                  #179387
                  Allan Plant 1
                  Participant
                    @allanplant1

                    Thanks for the rapid replies!

                    @Neil – it's the gears that have stripped

                    @Ted – I sent them over some details and gave a rough quote of £100 for a blank & £140 – £160 with milling.

                    I do have a dividing head that I bought from Axminster a few years ago but would have to study on how to use it and to work out what the pitch DP etc etc.

                    Allan

                    #179398
                    John Stevenson 1
                    Participant
                      @johnstevenson1

                      Gimme a bit as dinner in in the dog and I'll pop the cover off an align unit and see what that looks like as the Align gears are available easily

                      #179409
                      Muzzer
                      Participant
                        @muzzer

                        Manuals for Align power feeds are here. Include exploded view, parts list etc.

                        If it's the ubiquitous AL500, part number 102 looks suspiciously like this gear.

                        Where do you get spares in the UK? The Auction Site?

                        #179457
                        Allan Plant 1
                        Participant
                          @allanplant1

                          I've spent some time looking at the Align gears and they seem to be 107 teeth and the hole is larger.

                          #179467
                          John Stevenson 1
                          Participant
                            @johnstevenson1

                            Yes got one of my spare gears here 107 teeth 91.3mm OD and a tapered hole in the centre 42mm on the smallest diameter.

                            If you lay a protractor across the teeth and let me know the angle I can attempt to 3D print you one early next week.

                            I do have some decent gear software to work all this out.

                            #179470
                            Neil Wyatt
                            Moderator
                              @neilwyatt

                              Are you sure your gear isn't 107 teeth? That woudl make it almost dead to szie for 30 DP rather than pretty close…

                              You can always bush one of the align gears.

                              Neil

                              #179500
                              John Stevenson 1
                              Participant
                                @johnstevenson1

                                Neil,

                                How are you working out the DP ?

                                 

                                Because without knowing the helix angle none of the quick add two teeth formulae work.

                                 

                                As an example 108 teeth 30DP 10 degrees helix  gives an OD of 94.5mm

                                Increase to 15 degrees and the diameter increases to 96.35 and at 20 degrees helix it's now 99.0018mm OD

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                Edited By John Stevenson on 12/02/2015 14:50:26

                                #179507
                                Allan Plant 1
                                Participant
                                  @allanplant1

                                  Hi John & Neil

                                  108 teeth for sure!

                                  Wow, didn't expect the offer to make one, would love to see that on You Tube! I'm willing to pay obviously.

                                  I don't have anything to measure the degree angle at work but have put marker pen on it and rolled it out, I will measure it later.

                                  Thanks for all your help and comments

                                  Allan

                                  #179508
                                  Allan Plant 1
                                  Participant
                                    @allanplant1

                                    img_3666.jpg

                                    #179510
                                    Bob Brown 1
                                    Participant
                                      @bobbrown1

                                      Working in AutoCAD from the jpg I get 15 degrees

                                      #179526
                                      Lathejack
                                      Participant
                                        @lathejack

                                        Quillstar in Nottingham have been selling new Zytel gears for the Align power feeds for a few years, they are currently £35, but I think they are 107 teeth.

                                        #179528
                                        Neil Wyatt
                                        Moderator
                                          @neilwyatt

                                          > Because without knowing the helix angle none of the quick add two teeth formulae work.

                                          ;-P

                                          #179569
                                          John Stevenson 1
                                          Participant
                                            @johnstevenson1

                                            OK peeps, working off what we have as regards number of teeth, OD and we take the pitch angle as 15 degrees which sounds reasonable as they often work in 2 1/2 degree increments for some obscure reason.

                                            The DP works out as 31.42 but more telling is the Module at 0.81 which we will ass-ume is 0.8

                                            Now i don't mind having a go at printing one of these but my printer, UP!2, can do various densities as regards fill but it cannot do a complete fill. Probably as it uses to much filimant and / or takes too long so

                                            [a] Not sure how strong it will be, and

                                            [b] not sure what the tooth detail is like on something as fine as 0.8 mod but prepared to give it a go.

                                            Alternative is to hob one but not sure if I have a 0.8 Mod hob and if I have I will have to make mandrels etc for it as I'm fixed on 1" or 1 1/4" bore hobs, not 10mm ones.

                                            Alternative is to mill one using Gearotic which allows you to cut involute gears with an end mill, no special tools.

                                            Drawback to this is the size of cutter needed, according to the screen shot it has to be smaller than 0.6 mm

                                            #179585
                                            Michael Gilligan
                                            Participant
                                              @michaelgilligan61133

                                              That's an impressive demonstration, already, John.

                                              This might be a useful time to mention that SurplusShed stocks loads of plastic gears, some of which are weird and/or wonderful. They happily ship to the UK, at realistic prices, and their service is excellent.

                                              Incidentally: Those with an interest in Optics will be impressed by their product range !!

                                              MichaelG.

                                              Edited By Michael Gilligan on 13/02/2015 08:25:02

                                            Viewing 21 posts - 1 through 21 (of 21 total)
                                            • Please log in to reply to this topic. Registering is free and easy using the links on the menu at the top of this page.

                                            Advert

                                            Latest Replies

                                            Home Forums Manual machine tools Topics

                                            Viewing 25 topics - 1 through 25 (of 25 total)
                                            Viewing 25 topics - 1 through 25 (of 25 total)

                                            View full reply list.

                                            Advert

                                            Newsletter Sign-up