Welding Mazak

[vintagengineerParticipant @vintagengineer]

What is the best way to weld Mazak?

[vintagengineerParticipant @vintagengineer]

[DustyParticipant @dusty]

Mazak cannot be welded, its melting point is far to low. It can be soft soldered I understand, but have never tried, or needed to myself.

[donkeyParticipant @donkey]

A good way to join it with strength is with a product like lumiweld. It can be done on a cooker flame. And uses a stainless rod to rid the weld puddle of oxidation. I have used it on motorcycle parts. And have never rebooked any of them.

Brian

[not done it yetParticipant @notdoneityet]

I don't believe you will weld mazak in the way welding works – ie fusing the metal by melting at the joints, often using a filler to build up the joint. Filling with a braze type of filler is possible by careful selection and careful temperature control, but brazing is not welding – just higher temperature than most soldering.

Mazak is just what it is-a cheap diecasting material, often susceptible to expansion if stored in damp conditions.

[HillclimberParticipant @hillclimber]

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/8356-soldering-die-cast-metal/

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

In theory it should be possible to weld it, if you can find a way to create a weld pool without the heat just melting the whole thing. You could cast up some sticks of mazac for filler metal.

The trouble is it melts at such a low temperature it will be hard to get the sharp temperature gradient usually involved in welding.

Perhaps a micro Oxy-propane set or a small carbon arc would provide a localised enough source of heat.

I would go with the Lumiweld suggestion, it's probably more strong and stable than Mazac.

Neil

[vintagengineerParticipant @vintagengineer]

I rebuild SU and they are made from the worst possible shit imaginable! The also suffer from hydrogen embrittlement which doesn't help!

But I will try lumiweld with both a flame and my tig welder.

[J HancockParticipant @jhancock95746]

Just be prepared to catch the puddle of molten Mazak, it happens quickly !

You might try one of the really low temperature 70deg alloys as a filler ?

[HillclimberParticipant @hillclimber]

If you are using TIG, I should have thought pulse essential. But take a look at these, although the thread on the Miller site is a little old…

http://tinyurl.com/y7rl9u36

http://tinyurl.com/y846gung

Finally, I'd suggest you pay attention to those zinc vapours if you try welding. They are unpleasant and dangerous.

[Ady1Participant @ady1]

I rebuild SU

Is that SU carbs?

[vintagengineerParticipant @vintagengineer]

Posted by Ady1 on 17/12/2017 11:36:38:

I rebuild SU

Is that SU carbs?

Yes, sorry I think faster than i can type!

[donkeyParticipant @donkey]

My post should have said never rebroken any of them. Seems I type too fast also.

Bri

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