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[John FieldingParticipant @johnfielding34086]

In an old engineering text book I came across some names of things I hadn't seen before and I wondered how many readers know what they refer to:

Half Imperial

Imperial

Double Elephant

Antiquarian

They all relate to the same type of object – What is it?

[John FieldingParticipant @johnfielding34086]

Todays quiz question

[Jeff DaymanParticipant @jeffdayman43397]

Paper sizes, old ones. JD

[Anonymous]

Posted by Jeff Dayman on 15/03/2016 14:39:49:

Paper sizes, old ones. JD

Yep, everyone kno that, even Molesworth!

Andrew

[BubbleParticipant @bubble]

Hello

In my day on the Railway they referred to drawing board sizes

Jim

[John FieldingParticipant @johnfielding34086]

Yes, you are correct.

This book was published in 1908. I had never heard of them, but I wasn't around in 1908

BTW Who is Molesworth?

Edited By John Fielding on 15/03/2016 14:56:59

[LambtonParticipant @lambton]

Molesworth ah! I have a copy of his pocket book.

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

To late in the day to catch us on that one

Anyone know why foolscap is called that – without cheating?

Neil

[John FieldingParticipant @johnfielding34086]

Aaaah Neil,

You will be asking us what a "Sagger Makers Bottom Knocker" is next!

Also found another reference to paper types: Whatman's NHP

[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 15/03/2016 15:35:16:

Anyone know why foolscap is called that – without cheating?

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Yes … It's proportions are the Golden Section, the same as a Fool's Cap

MichaelG.

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

I needed to check but as I thought the name probably comes from watermarks that were used.

Things have been A4 etc for as long as I had been in work. Even detail drafting – an A0 sheet a day keeps the doctor away – no space wasted. A GA might take a bit longer. Makes me laugh when I see people using cad but that sort of speed does take a while to acquire. Getting black lines too with a pencil.

John

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Edited By Ajohnw on 15/03/2016 15:51:13

[John FieldingParticipant @johnfielding34086]

Hi Ajohnw,

Almost,

NHP stands for "Not Hot Pressed" there was a Whatman's HP paper as well (Hot Pressed) and apparently in those days all paper had a watermark.

The things you learn in book ….Eish

[Anonymous]

Posted by John Fielding on 15/03/2016 14:56:10:

BTW Who is Molesworth?

The scourge of St Custard's; see this link:

**LINK**

Andrew

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 15/03/2016 15:42:56:

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 15/03/2016 15:35:16:

Anyone know why foolscap is called that – without cheating?

.

Yes … It's proportions are the Golden Section, the same as a Fool's Cap

I hope that's a jest

> Things have been A4 etc for as long as I had been in work.

It was defined as a standard in 1975.

Neil

[charadamParticipant @charadam]

Having worn one a time or two, I think foolscap (13.5×8,5 inches) is just the right size to form a Dunces' cap.

Edited By charadam on 15/03/2016 23:07:21

Edited By charadam on 15/03/2016 23:09:04

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Also found in old book. Anyone got an odontograph? An original not a copy. I saw one in a museum but I just can't remember which one.

usual rules – no googling though there is only one dictionary that recognises it and clearly doesn't know what it is.

Edited By Bazyle on 16/03/2016 07:34:23

[Anonymous]

Posted by Bazyle on 16/03/2016 07:31:00:

Also found in old book. Anyone got an odontograph? An original not a copy. I saw one in a museum but I just can't remember which one.

No, only a reprint in a book on gear design.

Andrew

[pgk pgkParticipant @pgkpgk17461]

Posted by John Fielding on 15/03/2016 14:35:12:

In an old engineering text book I came across some names of things I hadn't seen before and I wondered how many readers know what they refer to:

Half Imperial

Imperial

Double Elephant

Antiquarian

They all relate to the same type of object – What is it?

Some impressive knowledge here. I though these were portions of chips..

2/6d worth

5 Bobs worth

An American portion

A special order for secondhand bookshop owners.

And an odontograph is a tool for calibrating overbite in brace design…

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

Bazyle, was it Collins English Dictionary? Odontograph: An aid to marking out gear teeth in which a circular curve is substituted for the true involute curve

[BazyleParticipant @bazyle]

Posted by Ian S C on 16/03/2016 10:36:08:

Bazyle, was it Collins English Dictionary? Odontograph: An aid to marking out gear teeth in which a circular curve is substituted for the true involute curve

Yes, that really tells you a lot doesn't it

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

The dunce's cap is an urban myth, anyone who remembers foolscap will know that it makes a hat suitable only for a toddler!

The real reason is that it used to bear a watermark of a jester's (fool's) cap.

Some excellent examples HERE

Neil

[Neil WyattModerator @neilwyatt]

Posted by Ian S C on 16/03/2016 10:36:08:

Bazyle, was it Collins English Dictionary? Odontograph: An aid to marking out gear teeth in which a circular curve is substituted for the true involute curve

Or:

odontograph

(ō-dŏn′tō-grăf) [″ + graphein, to write]

Device for determining the degree of uneven surface of tooth enamel.

[AjohnwParticipant @ajohnw51620]

Posted by Ian S C on 16/03/2016 10:36:08:

Bazyle, was it Collins English Dictionary? Odontograph: An aid to marking out gear teeth in which a circular curve is substituted for the true involute curve

I think it's a bit more complicated than that but not much info about

**LINK**

John

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[Michael GilliganParticipant @michaelgilligan61133]

Lots of detail here

 Download is available here [despite what Google says ^^^]

Edit: More books by Grant are available 

MichaelG.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 17/03/2016 08:16:36

[Ian S CParticipant @iansc]

I just quoted all that was in the Dictionary, which if anyone wanted to research the item gives a start, but only just.

Ian S C

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