Noga Rotodrive

[Tony Pratt 1Participant @tonypratt1]

[Tony Pratt 1Participant @tonypratt1]

I'm now lusting after a Noga Rotodrive countersink deburring tool but they are expensive @ £25 just for the blade, £50 odd for the whole lot!! Any comments on this tool from actual owners please.

Tony

Edited By Tony Pratt 1 on 09/02/2021 15:11:07

Edited By Tony Pratt 1 on 09/02/2021 15:11:53

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

I use a small 1/4" head one from Tracey a lot of the time, part of a set of three. Very easy to twiddle it round rather than twisting a fixed one in your hand.

Also got an ARC set with a couple of them but tend to keep a hook type bit in the handle.

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

I bought one of these on ebay for about £7 if my memory serves me right, noga logo removed from the mould, excellent quality, a case of the factory owner running a night shift for non customer production me thinks.

[SteviegtrParticipant @steviegtr]

Posted by Pete. on 09/02/2021 15:19:07:

I bought one of these on ebay for about £7 if my memory serves me right, noga logo removed from the mould, excellent quality, a case of the factory owner running a night shift for non customer production me thinks.

I used to do a lot of contract work for a Blue chip chocolate company. They often sent lots of product to be packed elsewhere. One day they had a machine go down & asked me to go have a look at it. The packaging was not the company that had made it. UMM.

Steve.

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

Posted by Steviegtr on 09/02/2021 15:24:50:

Posted by Pete. on 09/02/2021 15:19:07:

I bought one of these on ebay for about £7 if my memory serves me right, noga logo removed from the mould, excellent quality, a case of the factory owner running a night shift for non customer production me thinks.

I used to do a lot of contract work for a Blue chip chocolate company. They often sent lots of product to be packed elsewhere. One day they had a machine go down & asked me to go have a look at it. The packaging was not the company that had made it. UMM.

Steve.

I live in Leicester, there's a lot of textiles type factories, well there used to be anyway, when I worked in property maintenance for the council I worked with an Indian guy who told me he had some private building work for a wealthy customer, who had an entire factory dedicated to cutting out labels and stitching in 'made in England' tags so certain high end clothing stores could put them on the shelves.

Anyway, if you search NG1000 or NG1001 on ebay you'll see, don't think a link is allowed.

[David JuppParticipant @davidjupp51506]

I have one of those (haven't checked if NOGA or a clone) – it came as part of a toolkit for preparing small bore, stainless steel high pressure piping. It is very easy to use, and fast for tidying the ID of the pipe after cutting to length and coning the OD.

I was sceptical when I first saw it – but I'm a convert now.

[Anonymous]

Posted by Tony Pratt 1 on 09/02/2021 15:07:33:

I'm now lusting after a Noga Rotodrive countersink deburring tool but they are expensive @ £25 just for the blade, £50 odd for the whole lot!! Any comments on this tool from actual owners please.

 

Here's what they cost in Canada. (This in the US). Draw your own conclusions.

I have all three. I use the large and small inside ones all the time. Wouldn't be without them.

The outside one I use somewhat less but still find it handy when I need it. And for the price ….

Edited By Peter Greene on 09/02/2021 16:28:19

[Nigel Graham 2Participant @nigelgraham2]

Expensive for such a simple tool, but they are good.

[Tony Pratt 1Participant @tonypratt1]

Thanks all! I've pulled the trigger on a genuine Chinese copy generic blade for £7 & only 5 weeks to wait. In the UK genuine Noga gear is as rare as hens teeth & 2 to 3 times the price of Canadian/USA suppliers Obviously plenty of counterfeit copies on the net & only 2/3rds the price, who knew Noga made some of their stuff their stuff in China? I will give an update when I get the blade.

Tony

[jimmy bParticipant @jimmyb]

I use these often, 6mm, 10mm and 16mm ones.

MSC sell them for £33 complete (+VAT).

Jim

[Bill PhinnParticipant @billphinn90025]

Posted by jimmy b on 09/02/2021 17:08:19:

I use these often, 6mm, 10mm and 16mm ones.

MSC sell them for £33 complete (+VAT).

Jim

I'm not seeing these, Jimmy, on the UK site. Perhaps you'd be good enough to provide a link.

[Joseph Noci 1Participant @josephnoci1]

I have a few of the NOGA offerings – the large handled kit, a large handled single unit, mainly for deburring edges, corners and sheet edges, and a mini-kit.

To be honest, I NEVER use the countersink capability – I find it awkward and an uncomfortable motion. For CSK deburring, I have some of these:

Ann I use them in a small battery powered drill – that works very well, at slow speed, and one gets the hang of it very quickly – easy to deburr a hole drilled, or apply a more prominent CSK to a tapped hole, etc.

For deburring corners of material, such a milled flat surface edges, or guillotined sheet metal edges, etc, the NOGA kits work well, but I find the long handled types uncomfortable and when doing inside curved edges for example, the need to rotate the tool in a compound fashion while sliding the cutter along the edge is uncomfortable – it requires the whole wrist and fore-arm to rotate, rather than fingers and wrist.

The Mini-Kit is my go-to deburrer ( is that a word??) – very slick to use, quick and easy. Hard to describe the uncomfortable action, but its like whittling a chicken egg sized object with a carving knife versus a penknife…

The NOGA kits I have – this one is new and used maybe a half dozen times – probably won't ever use it again…

This is just a single tool, with spare deburring blades in the handle – gets used when really heavy cuts are needed..

And my favourite: The handle is 80mm long, 16mm across flats

Joe

[Bill PhinnParticipant @billphinn90025]

Interesting photos, Joseph. The 007 kit seems popular with others besides yourself, Quinn Dunki being one of them.

If I'm not machine-countersinking I also use either a three flute or single flute countersink held in either a hand chuck or a combi drill for deburring and minor countersinking jobs – at the moment.

I wonder has anyone here tried the Shaviv ratcheting handle as an alternative to the rotodrive solution illustrated in the opening post?

[jimmy bParticipant @jimmyb]

Posted by Bill Phinn on 09/02/2021 17:56:38:

Posted by jimmy b on 09/02/2021 17:08:19:

I use these often, 6mm, 10mm and 16mm ones.

MSC sell them for £33 complete (+VAT).

Jim

I'm not seeing these, Jimmy, on the UK site. Perhaps you'd be good enough to provide a link.

**LINK**

Price has increased to £34 from catalogue.

Jim

[Bill PhinnParticipant @billphinn90025]

Posted by jimmy b on 09/02/2021 18:40:41:

Posted by Bill Phinn on 09/02/2021 17:56:38:

Posted by jimmy b on 09/02/2021 17:08:19:

I use these often, 6mm, 10mm and 16mm ones.

 

MSC sell them for £33 complete (+VAT).

 

Jim

I'm not seeing these, Jimmy, on the UK site. Perhaps you'd be good enough to provide a link.

**LINK**

Price has increased to £34 from catalogue.

 

Jim

I did find that, Jim, but it only contains the one countersink [the BC1041], unfortunately, not three as you suggest.

Edited By Bill Phinn on 09/02/2021 18:47:08

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

It's not counterfeit, what's the best way to put it? Nonbranded? They're made from the same moulds, just have the noga logo removed in that square box.

[Simon Williams 3Participant @simonwilliams3]

I managed to coerce Santa Claus into putting a Rotodrive in my Christmas stocking. The little one (10.4 mm dia) is absolutely marvellous.

On the strength of this I have since bought the bigger one – the 20 mm dia version, which is less convincing and a countersink in a battery drill is better 'cos you can push harder.

So I have managed to convince myself that the bigger 30 mm Rotodrive is probably not worth the money, not for me anyway.

Best prices I found for genuine Noga stuff were from Farnell. There are clones, no idea if they are good, bad or indifferent, but some of the prices look a bit less exotic.

[Anonymous]

Posted by Simon Williams 3 on 09/02/2021 22:44:28:

On the strength of this I have since bought the bigger one – the 20 mm dia version, which is less convincing and a countersink in a battery drill is better 'cos you can push harder.

Can't say I've ever had a problem – but I do only use it for deburring. If I want to countersink a hole, I … well …. countersink the hole.

[Roderick JenkinsParticipant @roderickjenkins93242]

Just got one of these:

Draper 37023

Works very well. Cheapest version was on Amazon. Prices ranged up to nearly 40 quid on ebay.

Cheers,

Rod

[Neil LickfoldParticipant @neillickfold44316]

I still have my original Noga from 1982 and still works well. Noga works really well, and to me is worth my money to buy a quality tool that easily does a great job of deburring. The knock off blades are junk and break. So I now juts buy the genuine ones. There is loads of accessories that still work with the early handles like I have, that have a multitude of deburring knives in it's handle. The rotodrive is really great to use. I only have the smaller one.

[Tony Pratt 1Participant @tonypratt1]

Posted by Tony Pratt 1 on 09/02/2021 17:05:17:

Thanks all! I've pulled the trigger on a genuine Chinese copy generic blade for £7 & only 5 weeks to wait. In the UK genuine Noga gear is as rare as hens teeth & 2 to 3 times the price of Canadian/USA suppliers Obviously plenty of counterfeit copies on the net & only 2/3rds the price, who knew Noga made some of their stuff their stuff in China? I will give an update when I get the blade.

Tony

My Chinese blade arrived a short while ago, it looks the business & it does the job.

Tony

[Pete.Participant @pete-2]

Did you purchase the same one as mine Tony?

[Tony Pratt 1Participant @tonypratt1]

Hi Pete, no I just bought the chamfering blade [item # 164690229954] from Ebay, I do actually have some genuine Noga handles supplied by an ex employer of mine but I can't see the sense in spending loads of money for a deburring tool.

Tony

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