MYFORD SUPER 7 CRATE

[Jeff BarnettParticipant @jeffbarnett14999]

Hi,

I’m migrating to NZ (yes I’m very fortunate) and need to ship out my Myford Super 7. This is really a long shot, but does anybody have a packaging crate for a super 7 that would be willing to let go off?

As a second question does anybody have experience of international shipping of Myfords:

Recommendations

Shippers with poor performance

 

Thanking you all in advance.

Regards

 

Jeff

 

I do understand that crates need to meet international requirements, if I find one I aim to get certification to ISPM15

[Martin KyteParticipant @martinkyte99762]

Are Myfords available in NZ. If so why not sell yours and buy one when you get there?

It may prove cheaper overall.

[noel shelleyParticipant @noelshelley55608]

It will be a whole lot easier to move if the motor and counter shaft/clutch assembly is removed. Also any bits that stick out eg the hand wheel on the lead screw. Good luck. Noel.

[JasonBModerator @jasonb]

Are you not taking anything else with you? Most people I know have put all their possessions in a shipping container so you could just box the lathe up and include with everything else.

[Robert Atkinson 2Participant @robertatkinson2]

Note that NZ has strict import restrictions on organic materials and pests. Any wooden packing materials must be treated and certified.

https://www.mpi.govt.nz/import/forest-products/importing-wood-packaging-and-ispm-15-material/

Robert.

[Robert Atkinson 2]

On Robert Atkinson 2 Said:

Note that NZ has strict import restrictions on organic materials and pests. Any wooden packing materials must be treated and certified.

https://www.mpi.govt.nz/import/forest-products/importing-wood-packaging-and-ispm-15-material/

Robert.

Ha! NZ must be a bureaucrat’s heaven. It’s a country with a small, mostly well-behaved population, who should object to the excessive interference by the petty bureaucrats, but don’t – Kiwis just ignore most of the ‘noise’, and get on with life. The regulations are there, in abundance, but their policing is lacking. Making sure the correct process is followed is much more important to these people than actually doing something useful or – heaven forbid! – helpful.

When I packed up my workshop for the journey from UK to NZ, about 20 years ago, I belatedly came across the requirement for packing timber to be ‘treated and certified’. I intended to make my own crates. I tried to discover exactly what treatment and certification was required, but without success – and still have no idea. Eventually, I spoke on the ‘phone to someone appropriate (?) in the port where our containers would land, to be told, “Look, NZ is a small country. If nothing actually crawls out of the container, she’ll be right.” Kiln-dried timber, or manufactured sheet products seem to be OK. Our containers were not inspected. However, we know of folk who have had their containers gone through thoroughly, and fumigated, so there must be luck involved.

We had to make a declaration (multi-page tick-list form) about the containers’ contents. Questions included whether there was anything of vegetable or animal origin. Books? Wooden furniture? Leather goods? Woollen or cotton clothing? The person administering the form looked aghast. “No, for God’s sake don’t say ‘Yes’!” Humpty-Dumpty logic prevails!

I haven’t heard of any shipping/international removals company that can be recommended, unfortunately.

Bring everything engineering-related with you. Buy years’ worth of consumables and bring them out. I have recently been quoted $74 (approx 37 quid) for a Sutton (Australian) 4 mm dia. 4-flute HSS end mill. WTF?! I swiftly put in a sizeable order to ARC, and was lucky enough to get much of what I wanted.

Large, strong plastic bags, silica gel, bubble wrap in strong cardboard boxes crammed into the container do well. Strip down the Myford to get the weight of its crate down to a comfortable two-man lift. Spray all the shiny bits with something like Waxoyl or LPS3 and hope. Nothing of mine suffered in any way. The big machines were bolted to 1″ ply on 2X4 timbers, pretending to be pallets, and encased with OSB board. Having a pallet truck helped at both ends!

We had the choice of having our containers ‘inside’ the ship. More weather protection. Also containers have a habit of dropping off ships…

Look at TradeMe, the NZ auction site. Myfords and Emco gear comes up from time to time. Mostly it’s neglected and abused junk, and at silly prices. Unfortunately, NZ is at the end of fragile and unreliable supply chains, and prices for a lot of things are twice UK or US prices, in real terms, sometimes much more. Look ahead, do your homework, and bring as much as possible with you.

Presumably, because of historical supply restrictions, the second-hand market thrives here. You could furnish a house, equip a kitchen, etc. for peanuts if you look at the various on-line resale sources, the auction houses and the wonderful ‘op shops’ (think Oxfam, and other charity shops).

Your container can be unpacked straight into a storage facility (lots everywhere), so don’t worry if finding a home looks a way off.

It’s a funny, isolated, little country, but we’re mostly friendly. Good luck! By all means PM me if you have questions. If you’re heading to Auckland, I won’t be much help – it’s like a different country…

[parovozParticipant @parovoz]

I shipped some high value parts to Oz a number of years back and had to get my custom built crate fumigated and certified. I was able to do it locally in Edinburgh! Can’t remember the name of the firm. But the fumigation is to prevent nasty wood boring pests from entering the country. But unlikely they live in ‘plywood’…..

 

[noel shelleyParticipant @noelshelley55608]

wood boring pests love some types of plywood ! Noel.

[Jeff BarnettParticipant @jeffbarnett14999]

They are very expensive in NZ.

[Jeff BarnettParticipant @jeffbarnett14999]

Hi Noel,

Thanks for the tips

[Jeff BarnettParticipant @jeffbarnett14999]

Robert,

Yes I did mention that in my email.

[Jeff BarnettParticipant @jeffbarnett14999]

Yes I need a box – crate for it, hence my post.

[Jeff BarnettParticipant @jeffbarnett14999]

Hi Kiwi Bloke,

Thanks for your email.

 

My current plan is to make a custom box from processed wood to comply with ISPM15. Will probably get it heat treated to ISPM15 to be safe, but only if available a local crate maker.

 

As you say I’m taking everything, years of tools. Many do not appreciate how expensive Myford stuff is when your at an antipode. I’m very lucky to have a ‘new’ original Myford that’s over 40 years old, a rare find.

I’m heading to Welly, as you say most friendly people in NZ, to be my new home.

 

Thanks your email and all the useful tips, it brought me a wide smile.

 

 

[vintagengineerParticipant @vintagengineer]

When ever I ship to NZ I use OSB board as this acceptable as the manufacture process kills any pests.

 

[Bob WorsleyParticipant @bobworsley31976]

I have a plastic pallet that is redundant. Usual pallet size, 4’x 3’6″, by about 1m high. Has a moulded base, fluted type side walls and a moulded top. Maximum weight is 500kg, staking weight is 1500kg, not secure so will need some work to woodscrew it together.

Located near Grantham.

 

[burns2Participant @burns2]

Hi, I’m in Wellington, you should be able to ship to the port and pick up. Customs may have some added charge. Bring your tools as there is loads of ML7s here and prices can be high, especially for myford attachments and super 7s. Good luck.

[Trevor Drabble 1Participant @trevordrabble1]

Jeff , have you tried speaking directly with Myford about this ?

Trevor.

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