Mini selfcentering stady rest

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  • #811709
    dk0
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      @dk0

      For turning small diameters on small lathes, I designed a mini self-centering steady rest.
      The clamping capacity ranges from 1 to 12.7 mm in diameter with a centering accuracy of 0.02 mm.
      The external dimensions are 44 x 56 x 10 mm thick.
      This device can be mounted on lathes such as: Schaublin 70/102, Myford, Boley, Emco, etc.
      What are your thoughts on its use? Thank you.

      #811716
      bernard towers
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        @bernardtowers37738

        Great but where is it?

        #811719
        dk0
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          @dk0

          This is the prototype of mini selfcentering stady rest with the demo/adapter bracket

          for the lathe Schaublin 102 !20250206_145242 (1)

          #811751
          John Haine
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            @johnhaine32865

            Still can’t see it.

            #811758
            Michael Gilligan
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              @michaelgilligan61133
              On dk0 Said:

              […]
              What are your thoughts on its use? Thank you.

              I would be very interested to see it

              Please keep battling with this capricious forum software !

              MichaelG.

              #811792
              dk0
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                @dk0

                What can I do?

                I see the stady rest image attached to the post!
                Now I’ll try sending another20250315_16063 Min image.

                #811793
                Michael Gilligan
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                  @michaelgilligan61133

                  Whatever you did there worked !

                  this time 🙂

                   

                  Thanks

                  MichaelG..

                  #811795
                  dk0
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                    @dk0

                    Michael,

                    do you see both pictures of the stady rest now?

                    #811804
                    bernard towers
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                      @bernardtowers37738

                      No just the one!

                      #811820
                      dk0
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                        @dk0

                        I’m re-sending the image20250206_145242 (1)

                        #811830
                        Michael Gilligan
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                          @michaelgilligan61133

                          Many thanks … That looks very impressive !

                          A few constructional details would be welcome

                          [ unless, of course, our esteemed Editor would like to publish an article in the magazine ]

                          I’m fed-up of people bickering about boilers !!

                          MichaelG.

                          #811835
                          renardiere7
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                            @renardiere7

                            Looks great. Agree would like to see construction details. I’m guessing a cone on a thread advances towards the lathe axis and acts on the pair of outer rollers whilst the same thread advances the central roller. Very neat idea.

                            #811843
                            dk0
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                              @dk0
                              On Michael Gilligan Said:

                              Many thanks … That looks very impressive !

                              A few constructional details would be welcome

                              [ unless, of course, our esteemed Editor would like to publish an article in the magazine ]

                              I’m fed-up of people bickering about boilers !!

                              MichaelG.

                              Michael, thanks for the positive comment.

                              This is just a prototype…. we’ll have to wait and see how the lathe operators judge it!

                              One peculiarity is that, given its small size and centripetal precision, the product is

                              machined primarily with wire EDM.

                              #811844
                              dk0
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                                @dk0
                                On renardiere7 Said:

                                Looks great. Agree would like to see construction details. I’m guessing a cone on a thread advances towards the lathe axis and acts on the pair of outer rollers whilst the same thread advances the central roller. Very neat idea.

                                Exactly, you understood how it works !20241014_225022

                                #811845
                                Michael Gilligan
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                                  @michaelgilligan61133

                                  Good illustration, thank you

                                  MichaelG.

                                  #811847
                                  Huub
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                                    @huub

                                    Great idea.

                                    For accurate positioning I would position the steady rest near the chuck, loosen the mounting screws, adjust the knob, tighten the mounting screws and than position the steady rest at the required position.

                                    #811855
                                    Neil Lickfold
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                                      @neillickfold44316

                                      Excellent idea. On cylindrical grinders, they use a 2 point steady rest that adjusts the bottom finger and the side finger at the same time. Not sure of their mechanism inside.

                                      I like what you have done.

                                      Thanks for sharing.

                                      Are you going to get these made and then sold ? If so, be interested when they become available.

                                      Neil

                                      #811883
                                      dk0
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                                        @dk0
                                        On Huub Said:

                                        Great idea.

                                        For accurate positioning I would position the steady rest near the chuck, loosen the mounting screws, adjust the knob, tighten the mounting screws and than position the steady rest at the required position.

                                        Correct procedure !

                                        The great advantage of this self-centering steady rest is that the positioning and centering operation is performed only the first time that the device is installed on the lathe. Afterwards, it can be disassembled and reassembled without having to search for the center every time as with traditional system.  The same steady rest can be mounted as “follow function” on the longitudinal carriage of the lathe, and with each diameter reduction, the 3 rollers automatically center and support the new dimension.

                                        #811885
                                        dk0
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                                          @dk0
                                          On Neil Lickfold Said:

                                          Excellent idea. On cylindrical grinders, they use a 2 point steady rest that adjusts the bottom finger and the side finger at the same time. Not sure of their mechanism inside.

                                          I like what you have done.

                                          Thanks for sharing.

                                          Are you going to get these made and then sold ? If so, be interested when they become available.

                                          Neil

                                          I have made 3 prototypes and am now testing them on small lathes,

                                          the results are good and promising …let’s see if there is interest before developing production!

                                          Anyway, thanks for your encouragement.

                                           

                                          #811890
                                          peter1972
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                                            @peter1972

                                            Am I correct in thinking that theoretically to maintain accurate concentricity the two angled ‘wedges’ should not have a flat slope?

                                            #811904
                                            dk0
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                                              @dk0
                                              On peter1972 Said:

                                              Am I correct in thinking that theoretically to maintain accurate concentricity the two angled ‘wedges’ should not have a flat slope?

                                              You’re right, it is not a flat slope but a profile based on the rational mechanics calculations.

                                              #811934
                                              dk0
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                                                @dk0

                                                The triangular brass plate has the function of opening the arms and 20250315_145918 Balso has slots with a special profile.

                                                #812462
                                                dk0
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                                                  @dk0

                                                  This video explains how complicated it is to center and use a traditional stady rest.With my project self-centering all this work is replaced by a simple operation of close and open because the 3 rollers always move concentrically and centripetally for any diameter, just like a lathe chuck.

                                                   

                                                  #815957
                                                  dk0
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                                                    @dk0

                                                    I’m currently designing a larger stady rest with a 2 to 30mm clamping capacity, specifically designed for the Myford ML7 lathe. If anyone has the correct profile and dimensions of the lathe guide and the spindle axis height to make the square adapter, please let me know. Thank you Stefano

                                                    #815970
                                                    John Haine
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                                                      @johnhaine32865

                                                      Axis height is easy, 3.5 inches.

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