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    john fletcher 1
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      @johnfletcher1

      I need to bonding / glue a sheet of Aluminium to Aluminium angle about 500 x 500. I would like details of preparation and title/ name of suitable Glue/

      #845453
      JasonB
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        @jasonb

        People wil want more info.

        Is the 500 x 500 the size of the sheet, size of the angle or contact area that you have.

        Any load involved or just cosmetic. temperatures, chemicals, etc.

        #845464
        Robert Atkinson 2
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          @robertatkinson2

          Sikaflex EBT+

          #845485
          Speedy Builder5
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            @speedybuilder5

            We glued the VC10 aeroplanes together with araldite – seemed to work OK ! Just follow the instructions on the packet.

            Bob

            #845491
            Michael Gilligan
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              @michaelgilligan61133

              Epoxy resins are suitable … but good surface preparation is essential.

              Abrasive cleaning first, followed by [say] a wipe-over with phosphoric acid to etch … Then apply the epoxy promptly!

              i.e. before the oxide layer forms again

              If you are too slow, the bond will eventually fail.

              MichaelG.

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              Edit: demonstrated to me, many years ago, by the British Airways repair team

              #845518
              mark costello 1
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                @markcostello1

                What I heard in the Interwebby was to put some epoxy on the part and sand through it. It would keep the aluminum layer from oxidizing. Sounds messy but might work.

                #845527
                bernard towers
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                  @bernardtowers37738

                  permabond holds Lotus cars together

                  #845530
                  Robert Atkinson 2
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                    @robertatkinson2

                    Permabond is a brand not a type of adhesive.

                    #845538
                    howardb
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                      @howardb
                      On mark costello 1 Said:

                      What I heard in the Interwebby was to put some epoxy on the part and sand through it. It would keep the aluminum layer from oxidizing. Sounds messy but might work.

                      Yes that was a valid technique back in the day, used in boatbuilding and repair of anodised aluminium mast sections.

                      Modern techniques seem to lean towards using etch primers.

                      #845547
                      not done it yet
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                        @notdoneityet

                        Lumiweld, or similar? Permanently bonded at normal temperatures.🙂

                        #845564
                        Vic
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                          @vic

                          Sand blasting the joints first worked well for me once. I used araldite. These days you can buy rubberised cyanoacrylate which may be an alternative?

                          Edit: This should help.

                          https://permabond.com/aluminum-glue-adhesives-bond-aluminum-permabond-adhesives/

                          #845639
                          Nigel Bennett
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                            When I was involved with the design of railway carriage doors, the makers of the things used Redux 609 adhesive, which is an epoxy with a cotton scrim. It comes in easily-cut sheets, so you cut the size and shape you want (scissors), clamp it between two sheets of aluminium and apply some heat. I’ve just enquired on the Interweb Thingy and it’s still apparently available. If you’re only after one piece, perhaps a request for a sample?

                            The rubber tyres on my Clayton steam wagon were stuck on with the stuff; I think 100 Celsius sort of temperature was required and simply I popped them into the domestic oven.

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