Heating equipment for boiler making

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13 November 2011 at 22:26 #77804
Kevin Norman
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I am coming to the point of building the boiler for my Sweet Pea and am not sure what brazing torch equipment to purchase.I know that they say you get what you pay for but I can purchase from a well known supplier a gas torch kit for approx £70 whereas the more expensive supplier it would cost in the region of £400.As I would probably build at the most 4 boilers with the equipment would the cheaper one do the job?
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13 November 2011 at 22:26 #5751
Kevin Norman
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13 November 2011 at 22:33 #77805
Nicholas Farr
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Hi Kevin, without knowing the specs for the the two sources of equipment, its not easy to say, are they both identical pieces of gear?

Regards Nick.
13 November 2011 at 22:40 #77807
Kevin Norman
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thanks Nick,

The only difference in the specs that I can see is that the expensive one has 8 nozzles as opposed to 5 and it also has a hose failure protection.

Regards Kevin
14 November 2011 at 04:16 #77811
Terryd
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HI,

you can get a basic Sievert burner kit from here. They are much cheaper than most. If you check the spec. it is the same as that sold by Reeves. There is only one nozzle supplied but other nozzles can be purchased seperately if and when needed thus spreading any cost.

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Terry
14 November 2011 at 10:33 #77819
Stewart Hart
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Hi

I built my boiler with the use a two burners, one a cheap and chearfull the other a more expensive, the trouble with the cheap ones is they blow out when you’re trying to work in an enclosed area, (fire box) I used the cheap one for background heat to get heat into the bulk of the boiler and the expensive one to get the heat into more localised areas. Thats what worked for me.

Stew
14 November 2011 at 15:13 #77830
Kevin Norman
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Thanks all for your answers , I think that I will go with TerryD’s suggestion and go for the better quality Sievert gear as the Clarke looks cheap.

Regards Kevin
14 November 2011 at 20:01 #77837
Sub Mandrel
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FWIW I have the basic Clarke set, and the biggest standard burner coped OK with a ~8″ by 4″ diameter centre flue boiler. I keep meaning to but a bifgger set of burners (set of three with a free handle, tube & regulator for the prioce of a single sievert burner)

Neil
14 November 2011 at 21:26 #77839
Terryd
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Hi all,

the Clarke basic set and the Sievert kit is much more expenxsive from Machine Mart that the company I offered the link to. The Sievert kit from them is a very good bargain.

Regards

Terry
15 November 2011 at 11:00 #77858
mgj
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Terry – thank you for that contact. The soldering burner will be very handy when doing TE tenders.

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You will need a cyclone type burner to deal with silver soldering in confined spaces. That is not cheap or expensive – that’s a specific type of burner. Sievert do them for certain – others probalby.

You also need the right regulator. You could I guess, do a boiler with a 2 bar regulator, but I would think that most people doing that sort of work would use a 4 bar one.

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15 November 2011 at 11:20 #77859
Kevin Norman
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Thanks all for your tips,

I have now purchased Sievert equipment from Hamiltons gas products for £125 which was approx half the price of other suppliers.

Regards

Kevin
19 November 2011 at 18:51 #78159
oldhandmike
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Kevin, thank you for posting this subject I have sent you a related Message which you can pick up from within you Account.

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Mike
20 November 2011 at 08:22 #78191
Richard Parsons
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Kevin,

When I lived in the U.K I used Sievert gear for all my work. When I came to Hungary I had two problems (apart from the language and the Hungarians). Firstly I had to get a new regulator. Hungarian cylinders have a left hand Male fitting. I did make a converter for the Sievert regulator but I could not get it ‘Officially’ tested. The gas people over here used to test gas appliance FOC. Now they do not. I know the thing was gas tight but if I used it and my neighbours house caught fire I would be blamed. Secondly the propane/butane mixture the sell is very dirty. I used to get a huge black mass of flux residue and leave a black sludge in the pickle bath. I had seen it before in the UK using one supplier’s gas bottles, but nothing like the amount I get over here.
I bought from the U.K a Flamefast torch (usual disclaimer) which uses gas/compressed air. It is very good, no more black residues and a ‘coconut every time’. It even works on ‘Earth Gas’ (natural gas). To my mind the gas/air torches are well worth the investment as you only need one burner to do all but the smallest jobs.

Rrgs

Dick

Edited By Richard Parsons on 20/11/2011 08:24:09
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