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    michael howarth 1
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      Would some kind soul point me in the right direction for a chart of Metric O ring groove widths and depths for various applications. There seem to be loads available for imperial rings but I am blowed if I can find one for the metric variety. The particular application I am looking for is for a 3.5 (id) x 1mm which for use in a loco axle pump. Thanks in advance.

      Mick

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      michael howarth 1
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        @michaelhowarth1

        Groove depth/width for Metric O rings

        #628136
        AStroud
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          @astroud

          My go to for O ring selection is the James Walker catalogue, downloadable as a pdf from their website, p29 onwards has groove design for o ring size.

          #628139
          DC31k
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            @dc31k

            'o ring groove dimensions metric' as a search term looks to produce some good leads.

            This one caught my eye:

            https://www.allorings.com/o-ring-groove-design-metric

            In the part 'o ring references', it looks like there are different parameters for different conditions of use (static, face seal, etc.) so take care if you use a generic chart.

            #628141
            Vic
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              @vic

              Design Notes start on page 24 of this document.

              O Ring Guide

              #628145
              Hopper
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                @hopper

                Engineers Edge is a wonderful online reference for all things design and more. Their o-ring summary for dynamic applications is here **LINK** and there are more specific pages if you search the site. Being American it's imperial but it does give percentages of compression and clearance so you could calculate it for a metric size. It is a good rundown on the how and why grooves are the sizes they are.

                #628261
                Baldric
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                  @baldric

                  I found this page a few days ago **LINK** I have read it suggested that for models we may want less compression to avoid to much friction, and there is a section about O-rings in the "Model engineers handbook" discussing this.

                  Baldric

                  #628272
                  JasonB
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                    @jasonb

                    As Baldric says the commercial charts are generally based on much higher pressures so th ering gets squashed a lot and creates more friction.

                    Reeves paper Catalogue and above mentioned book have ME friendly groove details though you would have to go pro rata as they don't go down as small as 1mm section. Typically around 5% compression for ME use as opposed to 10% from commercial tables.

                    #628278
                    michael howarth 1
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                      @michaelhowarth1

                      Baldric…. the polymax guide is exactly what I wanted. I have got a ME Handbook but it is an old version with very little info. on Metric O rings. Must get an update. Thanks everybody.

                      Mick

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