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  • #522283
    Tony Martyr
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      @tonymartyr14488

      I understand that companies servicing 'in-door hobbies' are experiencing something of a lock-down boom – I thought it was just me!.
      My workshop is an unheated in-shed space and I am finding that there is a correlation between the size of threads, or nuts, I can handle and the ambient temperature. While I have managed to fit cladding with 10BA brass screws via tweezers and jewelers screw driver today I have found 7 BA stuff, particularly in difficult to reach places, impossible to handle below 5 degrees C. So I have started to make a boiler/engine/feed system frame for my triple expansion engine using 3BA for the first time in my life – but I can get a grip of them!

      My problems have started since the family have installed an electrical Smart Meter and I have fallen under its audit – beware!

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      #27919
      Tony Martyr
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        @tonymartyr14488
        #522285
        Brian H
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          @brianh50089

          Tony, you are not alone in being spied on by a smart meter, I keep telling my wife that the government pays for my usage via the winter fuel allowance….. but I don't think that she is totally convinced!

          Brian

          #522286
          Brian Howett 2
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            @brianhowett2

            Hello Mr Coldfinger,

            I had an early Smart meter – but it burned out.

            I get calls pleading for me to have one – but no-one can actually tell me HOW it can save you money.

            As I see it its a clever ammeter, see some of the You-tube explanations.

            Brian

            #522298
            John Rudd
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              @johnrudd16576

              Edited…..self moderated….🤔

              Edited By John Rudd on 24/01/2021 16:08:25

              #522320
              Bazyle
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                @bazyle
                Posted by Brian Howett 2 on 24/01/2021 15:14:43:

                but no-one can actually tell me HOW it can save you money.

                The money saving feature is only included with the wife option if you have purchased it. See Tony's initial post. I've heard this option is very badly designed and seldom works as expected after the first few weeks.

                #522325
                Nick Clarke 3
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                  @nickclarke3

                  The savings are huge – No need to pay staff or a third party to read meters, no need to send out cards, no need to accept customer readings or have people on hand to adjust disputed estimated readings – enormous savings!!

                  Oh – all of a sudden this is about you?

                  #522327
                  Tony Martyr
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                    @tonymartyr14488

                    While using an electrical fan heater to raise my workbench area to a balmy 10C is very clearly visible on the meter display in terms of £/min, the short term peak of using both heater and a powerful wood router really got me into trouble. Trying to explain that the rate of expenditure over a period of one minute could not be extrapolated to a realistic annual rate of spend did not convince my critics who seem have become fixated on thereduction of electricity bill – which never registered before the arrival of the meter.

                    I'm tempted to do some maintenance on my old Fergy tractor where I can use a gas heater the other side of the field.

                    #522336
                    Old School
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                      @oldschool

                      I just blame my wife for using the tumble drier.

                      #522347
                      the artfull-codger
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                        @theartfull-codger

                        I've had a couple of letters saying we are going to fit you a smart meter [really, I don't think so] & the attendant guff about how it can save you money, I told them the only way you can save me money is by lowering your tariff, Ask my grandkids about leaving lights on & telly with no-one watching!! [grumpy grandad!!hehe]

                        #522349
                        JA
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                          @ja

                          I have managed to delay the arrival of the smart meter yet again. I told them I was self isolating and they postponed the fitting.

                          It is a little know fact that smart meters can spread COVID-19.

                          JA

                          Eventually you will be charged more if you don’t have one.

                          Edited By JA on 24/01/2021 18:37:49

                          #522356
                          Bill Phinn
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                            @billphinn90025
                            Posted by JA on 24/01/2021 18:34:26:

                            I have managed to delay the arrival of the smart meter yet again. I told them I was self isolating and they postponed the fitting.

                            I'm not sure I understand this, JA.

                            If, while it's still not compulsory to have one, you don't want a smart meter, why not just tell them that?

                            #522360
                            Peter Bell
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                              @peterbell11509

                              To change electricity supplier as we are often advised to do I had to have my meter replaced with a smart meter. This took my supplier at the time, EDF over a year to arrange. However it turned out the smart meter would only work with EDF so I now read my meter every month and mail the result to my new supplier.

                              Some friends had a smart meter installed and they were so horrified by the reading when they boiled a kettle they have never used it since and now boil a kettle on there log burning stove—takes ages!

                              Does anyone know if current smart meters can be transfered to a new supplier?

                              #522363
                              Grindstone Cowboy
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                                @grindstonecowboy

                                Apparently the new generation of smart meters are transferrable between suppliers. Still not interested. EON tried to tell me for the best part of a year that I'd agreed to have a smart meter fitted when I signed up to a new tariff, but luckily I'd screen captured all of the on-line agreement and what it actually said was that I agreed "to be contacted about having a smart meter fitted" – not the same thing at all to my mind. I'm now with Shell Power, who also ring me on occasion about fitting one but I just tell them it's not convenient at the moment.

                                Rob

                                #522366
                                not done it yet
                                Participant
                                  @notdoneityet

                                  IF you can avoid using grid energy between 16:;00h and 20:00h it is most definitely worth changing to Octopus Energy on their Agile tariff. Applies to leccy, not gas. Unfortunately, my wife would not oblige, so most of our energy use would be at expensive rates during those times.

                                  A working smart meter is a necessity for that tariff, of course.

                                  #522369
                                  JA
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                                    @ja
                                    Posted by Bill Phinn on 24/01/2021 19:07:44:

                                    Posted by JA on 24/01/2021 18:34:26:

                                    I have managed to delay the arrival of the smart meter yet again. I told them I was self isolating and they postponed the fitting.

                                    I'm not sure I understand this, JA.

                                    If, while it's still not compulsory to have one, you don't want a smart meter, why not just tell them that?

                                    I tell them every year that I am not interested in a smart meter. However NO is not a word in their vocabulary. Some times I think that it is because my surname begins with an A.

                                    I fully understand the concept of the smart meter. Once enough are installed variable tariffs will be introduced. After al,l industrial contracts have used variable tariffs for decades. Many times we had to shut down all the computers at work in the late afternoon during winter.

                                    JA

                                    #522374
                                    duncan webster 1
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                                      @duncanwebster1
                                      Posted by Bazyle on 24/01/2021 16:59:38:

                                      Posted by Brian Howett 2 on 24/01/2021 15:14:43:

                                      but no-one can actually tell me HOW it can save you money.

                                      The money saving feature is only included with the wife option if you have purchased it. See Tony's initial post. I've heard this option is very badly designed and seldom works as expected after the first few weeks.

                                      Sounds like Thomas Hardy territory, buying a wife

                                      #522376
                                      Mark Rand
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                                        @markrand96270
                                        Posted by Nick Clarke 3 on 24/01/2021 17:12:46:

                                        The savings are huge – No need to pay staff or a third party to read meters, no need to send out cards, no need to accept customer readings or have people on hand to adjust disputed estimated readings – enormous savings!!

                                        Oh – all of a sudden this is about you?

                                        Not only have I had to wipe down my screen and keyboard, but I inhaled a small but significant amount of Green Jack Baltic Trader ale.

                                        Please warn people before making sensible comments in the future.laugh

                                        #522423
                                        JasonB
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                                          @jasonb

                                          In a few million homes they could well actually help stop the spread of Covid rather than spread it. As you can top up Prepaid smart meters with a phone app that stops a lot of people having to go out and get a top up.

                                          #522434
                                          Michael Gilligan
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                                            @michaelgilligan61133
                                            Posted by Brian Howett 2 on 24/01/2021 15:14:43:

                                            – but no-one can actually tell me HOW it can save you money.

                                             

                                            .

                                            Answering that point specifically, rather than getting into the conspiracy theory:

                                            It’s you that  saves you money … by ‘self discipline’

                                            It simply provides information [via the local display unit] at a sufficiently granular level for you to appreciate the cost of your choices.

                                            [ sorry to be a bore ]

                                            MichaelG.

                                             

                                             

                                            Edited By Michael Gilligan on 25/01/2021 09:17:50

                                            #522440
                                            J Hancock
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                                              @jhancock95746

                                              Just wait until heating/car/ everything is electric !

                                              Gas boilers alone can be 150kw ++

                                              You'll need smelling salts for the wife when it fires up.

                                              #522449
                                              Mike Poole
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                                                @mikepoole82104

                                                In wife world phone chargers and tumble driers will use the same amount of power, a smart meter gives them an insight to how much power each device really uses. An information sheet would probably have been cheaper than the billions spent on smart meters. They will be a never ending source of trouble as being electronic they will eventually fail and be unrepairable due to component obsolescence. The big advantage is automatic reading that gives suppliers a large saving in data collection cost. Variable rates may be the hidden sting in the tail or a benefit if it can work for you.

                                                Mike

                                                #522461
                                                KWIL
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                                                  @kwil

                                                  Of course nothing is for free, WE are paying for the so called smart meter roll out, something around £420 EACH customer by unnecessary raised bills.

                                                  How many years of being careful will that take to pay off?

                                                  Only EDF pestered me to fit one, they got a swift answer which had the desired effect.

                                                  #522480
                                                  Anthony Kendall
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                                                    @anthonykendall53479

                                                    I actually would like one – in order to find out.

                                                    I think my problem is I change suppliers too often for one of them to get round to fitting one.

                                                    #522494
                                                    Vic
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                                                      @vic

                                                      It seems some folks bills have gone up considerably after having a smart meter fitted, even with identical usage. The reason given for this by the energy companies is that the old meter was under reading. I suggest anyone that has a smart meter fitted ask if they can keep the old one just in case! laugh

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