Cleally you are not the messiah, but in fact are a very naughty boy. However I for one forgive you absolutely.

To the pure all is pure, and for the rest it does'nt matter.

best regards Paul aka Parvum

Norman…

I too hate USING smilies and other emotions..

I take the point about zz***tt being no less unacceptable to some { hence all} than the word its replacing..

heres hoping we don't get too hung up on this {or spelling and grammer} to end up excluding worth while comment..

I hate " smilies " and the like, also don't like xxxxx words in print,. If it can't be written down then don't use it at all. I seem to be good at offending people in print and face to face, the only good thing about getting old is I don't worry anymore.

Hi

There again if you put it in CAPITALS you're accused of shouting so that won't do. Perhaps the answer is to use something like "add your own suitable expletive" or 'gosh', 'dash' or 'bother' but this kind of remark removes the impact. As it is the use of ***** has never bothered me as in itself it is meaningless but conveys a level frustration or annoyance felt by the person posting. After all if one does fill in the blanks with something that offends then one must be familiar with the word or phrase that offends , and a smiley just to round things off!!

Martin

PS

I would like to add that I don't approve of or like swearing or some of the other language that we have seen in the occasional post in this forum. Perhaps we should look at ****** as a set of "Extra Strong Exclamation Marks"

Edited By Martin W on 15/12/2013 15:50:50

Edited By Martin W on 15/12/2013 15:55:29

Ketan … I sincerely appreciate that apology.

As far as the forum guidelines are concerned, I think someone, with good intentions, has attempted to draw a line in the usual "middle ground" whereas I think that, logically it has to be one or the other – expletives are either acceptable here or they aren't and you either allow all or (hopefully) none.

I had recommended this forum to my thirteen year old great nephew, who was showing an interest, a few weeks back. When I saw some of the stuff that was happening here (albeit not frequently) I felt compelled to point it out to his Dad who promptly blocked the site from his son's computer. Some may think that was OTT. I personally don't, which may explain why I kicked off here. Not everyone here is an old fogey who's "been around".

And for those that feel it is difficult to properly express themselves without invoking such language … well, I think that problem is all yours. Should the rest of us have to suffer the consequences?

What is an expletive ? What language does OMG's great nephew use when out of earshot (or webshot) of his parents ? He might explain to his great-nephew that clear precise English makes it easier to be understood, but that others may well use decidedly slovenly language.

Dennis

Hi

I see no offence in Ketan's remarks of 'slowbay/safebay' or 'slowpal/safepal' perhaps its the minds of the reader that damns them rather than the person who posts the comment !! If this goes much further then this forum is likely to be placing its 'Engine Management Unit' firmly up its own 'Exhaust Port'.

Perfectly PC comments I believe for an engineering forum.(Refrains from adding a smiley/emoticon)

Regards

Martin

Edited By Martin W on 15/12/2013 18:01:24

Edited By Martin W on 15/12/2013 18:02:44

Anybody seen my knitting needles ?

Gentlemen and of course ladies

Some of you will know this but the Model Flying ( RCM&E a sister magazine) website has a strict no offensive or insulting language rule. This is strictly enforced by the moderators if you transgress as I have, you get a polite message warning you about the rules, a second transgression gets you removed. I at first thought we are all big boys and live in the real world, but on reflection I have come to see the sense, as has been pointed out above we do have younger viewers and we should not be subjecting them to such language. They will no doubt learn the full gambit of swear words and insults that can be levied on our targets in the fullness of time. By all means have a rant but keep it within bounds. Oh and by the way a series of asterisks is counted by Model Flying as if the word is used.

Edited By Dusty on 15/12/2013 20:20:07

I think a website should have standards,

I wrote some other comments but………had a rethink before sending. It's not hard to find the delete key.

No joke Martin some are real serious. Apparently you can only use 4 letter words beginning with F when someone drill a hole in a Myford that wasn't in the original design.

… or John, you could have accepted the fact that some people have a different viewpoint than yours and respected instead of ridiculing and belittling them.

Plonk!