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  • #263898
    Perko7
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      @perko7

      Looking for a bit of advice on keeping the lathe and surrounding areas clean. Usually sweep and vacuum to pick up majority of swarf but there is still a lot of smaller stuff which stays stuck to various surfaces particularly if using cutting lube. I don't want to wash down with solvent/kerosene or other cleaners if possible. Although the lathe has a drip tray underneath it has no drain hole, so any liquid used to clean would need to be mopped up when finished. What do others do?

      #15890
      Perko7
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        @perko7
        #263899
        Nick_G
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          @nick_g

          .

          Usually use a cheap paint brush to knock them into the tray.

          Nick

          #263901
          I.M. OUTAHERE
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            @i-m-outahere

            I usually avoid using any fluid to clean my lathe i find it tends to wash dirt into places it would not normally get to and the same goes for compressed air – it blows loose swarf everywhere and into places you didn't even know your lathe had !

            I wear some leather gardening gloves to bundle the bulk of the long stringy swarf out of the tray and dump it in the bin i then scrape the majority of whatever is left out into a bin ( a home made scraper consisting of a piece of inch wde flat bar about 6 inches long welded or screwed to a piece of 5/16 rod so it forms a T shape works well )

            Then i have at it with a vacuum cleaner and use a paint brush to move the stubborn stuff – i find this gets most of what is left off the machine .

            If there is any oily residue i use cheap paper toweling to mop it up and i usually wipe the ways down also.Occasionally i will give it a wipe over with a rage moistened withe white spirits ( shellite ) or automotive wax and grease remover , i mainly do this after machining cast iron but if i feel the machine is dirty enough it gets a wipe over . If it gets a wipe with shellite or wax and grease remover i then re oil the ways and if the machine is going to sit for a while i wipe on some lanotec to stop rusting .

            Ian

            #263907
            JasonB
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              @jasonb

              Same as Nick, use an old or cheap new paintbrush to flick the muck off then scoop it up from the drip tray when the layer is too thick.

              #263917
              John P
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                @johnp77052

                Posted by XD 351 31/10/2016 04:22:53

                "I usually avoid using any fluid to clean my lathe i find it tends to wash dirt into places
                it would not normally get to and the same goes for compressed air – it blows loose
                swarf everywhere and into places you didn't even know your lathe had !".

                I found the complete opposite to this ,when i used to machine dry i used
                a vacuum cleaner , when i went over to neat cutting oil coolant after removing
                most of the heavy swarf using the oil spray the years of accumulated
                muck on the lathe was washing out for months after ,leaves the machine
                cleaned and oiled.

                Chucked out the soluble oil from the cylindrical grinder and gone over to
                neat grinding oil for the same reasons ,works better and the machine
                stays clean and rust free.

                John

                #263933
                steamdave
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                  @steamdave

                  A cut down plastic milk carton makes a good dustpan for awkward places.

                  Dave
                  The Emerald Isle

                  #264006
                  Neil Wyatt
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                    @neilwyatt

                    The brass swarf is almost up to my leadscrew at the moment – I find it does an excellent job of protecting the lathe from dirt

                    Neil

                    #264010
                    JasonB
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                      @jasonb

                      You won't be so pleased with your pile when you drop a small brass part into the ever increasing mounddevil

                      #264016
                      I.M. OUTAHERE
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                        @i-m-outahere
                        Posted by John Pace on 31/10/2016 08:38:28:

                        Posted by XD 351 31/10/2016 04:22:53

                        "I usually avoid using any fluid to clean my lathe i find it tends to wash dirt into places
                        it would not normally get to and the same goes for compressed air – it blows loose
                        swarf everywhere and into places you didn't even know your lathe had !".

                        I found the complete opposite to this ,when i used to machine dry i used
                        a vacuum cleaner , when i went over to neat cutting oil coolant after removing
                        most of the heavy swarf using the oil spray the years of accumulated
                        muck on the lathe was washing out for months after ,leaves the machine
                        cleaned and oiled.

                        Chucked out the soluble oil from the cylindrical grinder and gone over to
                        neat grinding oil for the same reasons ,works better and the machine
                        stays clean and rust free.

                        John

                        John, i was alluding to the use of a spray bottle full of kero or the like that i have seen a lathe drowned in , all it did was wash the fine particles into the gibs and into the saddle drive mechanism . Then they took to it with compresed air to dry it off and this just pushed the crud in deeper .

                        Ian.

                        #264026
                        kevin beevers
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                          @kevinbeevers61752

                          depending on the make of your lathes mine is a boxford and i use a paint roler tray underneath catches most of the swarf so i just brush of into that

                          kevin

                          #264045
                          Neil Wyatt
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                            @neilwyatt
                            Posted by JasonB on 31/10/2016 16:49:40:

                            You won't be so pleased with your pile when you drop a small brass part into the ever increasing mounddevil

                            I'll fish it out with a magnet … err …oh….

                            I've worked out that making 3mm gears with a small 1mm boss and all gears less than full diameter of the bar and with a 2mm parting tool means >>50% of my beautiful brass is becoming swarf…

                            swarf.jpg

                            #264057
                            I.M. OUTAHERE
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                              @i-m-outahere

                              Neil that is just plain cruel !

                              I would hate to think what is on the floor !

                              Ian.

                              #264061
                              Alan Waddington 2
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                                @alanwaddington2

                                Well, not nearly as impressive as Neil's slovenly pile, but funnily enough i was making a chuck backplate adapter tonight,and looking at the devastation around me, wondered why my lathe/workspace never looks like the lovely pristine ones i see in pictures and videos on tinterweb forums…….20161031_185934_resized.jpg20161031_185908_resized.jpg

                                #264071
                                not done it yet
                                Participant
                                  @notdoneityet

                                  Neil's 'slovenly pile' at least has some possible monetary value! A coarse sieve, to fish out the lost pieces, and a magnet to gather up any ferrous waste might leave eough brass there for a good sized casting!smiley

                                  #264073
                                  Neil Wyatt
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                                    @neilwyatt
                                    Posted by XD 351 on 31/10/2016 19:56:24:

                                    Neil that is just plain cruel !

                                    I would hate to think what is on the floor !

                                    Ian.

                                    I will let you know if I find it.

                                    If only I can find a way to smelt that back into something usable – must be a few dollar's worth there!

                                    Neil

                                    #264083
                                    Robbo
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                                      @robbo

                                      Neil,

                                      Presumably the dimples in the pile of swarf are from the weeping of the operator?crying

                                      #264090
                                      Perko7
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                                        @perko7

                                        Thanks for the replies. After picking up the bulky stuff i've been using an old paint brush followed by the vacuum cleaner for a final clean, but on the old lathe (1920's vintage) the coarse surface of the cast iron seems to trap a lot of the finer residue. I've been using thread-cutting lube in a pressure-pack can for turning stuff that needs lubricating, so i might try using that as a cleaning spray as well, but it's a bit expensive.

                                        Maybe i should strip the lathe down and repaint it so the unmachined surfaces are a bit smoother and less likely to collect grime. Sounds like something i could possibly do over the Christmas holidaysindecision.

                                        Cheers.

                                        #264163
                                        Ian S C
                                        Participant
                                          @iansc

                                          I'm sure that some of the guys who send in photos have two workshops, one where they do all of their work, and another where they photograph the display item. Well maybe not, but the lathe often looks too clean.

                                          Ian S C

                                          #264182
                                          Matthew Reed
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                                            @matthewreed92137

                                            Workshops that are too clean.. it's a bit like seeing a really skinny chef.

                                            My two tips..

                                            wrap a dog poo bag round a magnet on a stick, wave it all over, then pull it off straight into the bin. Felt a bit stupid when I failed to notice I was working brass once, but still a cheap alternative to the posh magnet sticks sold for the job.

                                            Lidl have an Ash Vacume cleaner in the specials this week for £30. Does a good job on general workshop crud including swarf ( and also does the living room fire, which is obviously why I used the household budget to buy it….)

                                            Matthew

                                            #264185
                                            Michael Gilligan
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                                              @michaelgilligan61133
                                              Posted by Neil Wyatt on 31/10/2016 21:02:03:

                                              – must be a few dollar's worth there!

                                              .

                                              You would be lucky to get much more than £2 a kilo for it.

                                              … But prices seem to be rising, so it may be worth hoarding.

                                              https://www.greengatemetals.co.uk/scrapmetal/Brass.html

                                              MichaelG.

                                              #264187
                                              Flying Fifer
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                                                @flyingfifer

                                                Matthew,

                                                Hope the fire is out when you use there!!!

                                                Alan

                                                #264735
                                                Howard Lewis
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                                                  @howardlewis46836

                                                  If there was room to store it, I'd buy one of the ash vacuum cleaners. But in stead make do with cheap paint brushes (old, cleaned tooth brushes for things like Leadscrews), followed up with a small mains hand held vacuum cleaner. The long swarf under the lathe is chopped with tin snips, and often swept with a very old dustpan brush, before being persuaded into empty baked bean cans. The contents are then pounded down with a length of 1.5" or 30mm dia steel. When the tin is almost full, the lid is replaced, and the edges bashed over with a hammer, or the lump of bar. Once this has been done, the tin and contents go into the recycling bin.

                                                  (Bet that someone at the recycling centre wonders what on earth is in there, or maybe the magnet just picks it off into the scrap ferrous material skip)

                                                  Howard

                                                  #264873
                                                  Ian S C
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                                                    @iansc

                                                    You must eat a lot of Baked Beans! My swarf goes out by the bucket full.

                                                    Ian S C

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