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    Paul Scholey
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      @paulscholey17560

      I have a DI Palo DP F2 milling machine, I would like a Manual, parts diagram, not having any luck finding one, fantastic machine
      It would help if I could understand Italian
      Any suggestions please ?

      #852555
      renardiere7
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        @renardiere7

        Usinages.com  a forum not unlike this has a pretty good database of manuals for many machines.  I find that if I access it via Chrome it is automatically translated to English.  I had a quick look for you, Di Palo is mentioned but I can’t see any manuals/brochures etc.

        #852577
        Paul Scholey
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          @paulscholey17560

          Thank you for looking, I’m sure there will be something in Italy but it’s how I get hold of it, does anyone have any Italian model engineering friends ?

          #852581
          Paul Scholey
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            @paulscholey17560

            I’ve just looked up what you mentioned and I see it is in Italian, I will have to look into the translation 

            #852596
            Paul Scholey
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              @paulscholey17560

              IMG_4086

              #852642
              renardiere7
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                @renardiere7

                Wow Paul, what a lovely machine!  Looks very much like a Deckel clone. I just had a look on Google and see that the DFF series were Di Palo Torino’s own heavier development of their version of the FP1 which they cloned originally. Looks in great condition too.

                This is what I found;

                 

                Yes, Di Palo (officially Di Palo Torino) in Italy absolutely produced a clone of Friedrich Deckel’s iconic universal toolroom milling machines.

                lathes.co.uk
                The primary model they focused on cloning was the legendary Deckel FP1.

                lathes.co.uk
                The Di Palo Clones
                Di Palo DPR 101: This was their direct, highly faithful clone of the standard Deckel FP1. Italian machine registries and used-machinery listings explicitly describe the DPR 101 as a small-scale toolroom mill (fresa da attrezzisti) built specifically on the “tipo Deckel FP1” design. It shared the FP1’s signature layout: a slender main column, a horizontal spindle that adjusted fore and aft on a top ram, and a vertical T-slotted master table designed to host various interchangeable tables (fixed, tilting, or rotary) and specialized heads (vertical, high-speed, or slotting).

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                Later/Larger Iterations (The DFF Series): While Di Palo started out by strictly mimicking the compact footprint and Morse Taper 4 styling of the early FP1, they didn’t stop there. As the market demanded heavier metal-removal capabilities, Di Palo developed larger, scaled-up evolutions like the Di Palo DFF.2. These machines retained the core universal design philosophies pioneered by Deckel but were heavily modified to be much bigger, bulkier, and heavier than the original German counterparts.

                lathes.co.uk

                The Deckel “concept” was so structurally superior for tool-and-die makers that Di Palo was part of an elite club of Italian manufacturers (including C.B. Ferrari with their M1R/M2R and Bandini) who built their businesses by replicating or adapting Friedrich Deckel’s flawless geometry.

                lathes.co.uk

                 

                #852649
                Paul Scholey
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                  @paulscholey17560

                  Thank you for all that information
                  It has an hydraulic clutch so I was able to put a 3HP single phase motor on it, I’ve had it about 6 years, there has been photos of it on this site in the past when it was for sale.
                  I would really like a parts diagram of the inside but no luck yet

                  #852711
                  Pete
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                    @pete41194

                    You might try a post in this forum. https://www.practicalmachinist.com/forum/categories/deckel-maho-aciera-abene-mills.14/ If any have what your looking for that might be the easiest.

                    #852712
                    Paul Scholey
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                      @paulscholey17560

                      Thank you Pete
                      I will give it a try

                      #852742
                      Pete
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                        @pete41194

                        Dipolo isn’t a brand I recall seeing on that Practical Machinist sub forum before Paul, but that doesn’t mean much. There’s members and a few machine tool dealers based in Europe on that forum so you might get lucky? Google does pull up a few North American businesses who seem to list the brand which may not be much help. But it also mentions that manuals are difficult to find. Your mill appears to be in great condition though and was a lucky find. Even more so if original Deckel accessories such as the tee slotted tables, dividing and rotary tables would fit.

                         

                        #852750
                        Paul Scholey
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                          @paulscholey17560

                          It did come with two pallets of original accessories, an angled adjustable table, horizontal head with four arbours, dividing head and indexing head

                          #852771
                          Pete
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                            @pete41194

                            Then that was an extremely lucky find Paul. I’m suitably envious. ☺

                            #852789
                            Paul Scholey
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                              @paulscholey17560

                              Thank you

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