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[Steve WithnellParticipant @stevewithnell34426]

Hmmm, IBM haven't made anything in years, not since they focussed on their services strategy, though I am out of touch with their CAD offerings. Doubt they are the right organisation to do low cost stuff anyway, though they did achieve the lowest per unit manufacturing cost for the PS/2 whilst achieving the highest market price. That was a long time ago. Suspect your answer will come from China/India/small startups.

Remember the £1m CNC machines with a Kongsberg/Fanuc/… controller in a 6ft rack? Arceurotrade will ship a KX3 for 5K which I understand is good to 0.01mm repeatability. If it's only 0.02mm you get my point.

3D printing is in small workshops and is generating revenues, so this thing is rolling and will pick up pace. This will drive capability which will drive volumes and price.

There are a couple of guys in a bar somewhere saying "remember when we could charge £4k a copy for this stuff?"

Steve

[blowlampParticipant @blowlamp]

The thought of spending £100 on a pair of bearings with 2 thou runout would make me look for a different manufacturer. I dread to think how much their 3 tenths and above versions cost, although I actually believe that even their 'standard' bearings would perform much better than their specifications would indicate

As an example, I recently fitted my Mini-Lathe with a pair of standard Koyo 30206 taper roller bearings from Arceurotrade at less than £10 each. As near as I can tell, the runout is zero – this includes clocking the spindle register and also a 'still in place' turned test piece.

As far as I am aware, precision bearing classes are largely confined to angular contact bearings nowadays, with some exceptions of course.

Martin.

[dcostaParticipant @dcosta]

Hello Graham, good evening.

For what I could see in ArcEuroTrade's site they only have this size.
I tried a search with Google (using the name given to it by ArcEuroTrade) and found nothing interesting. Perhaps you have to machine the B16 taper to JT6. I don't have any JT6 taper to be able to compare sizes. However seeing images in the WWW I find apparently the JT6 is much smaller than B16. Both having centres in both extremes I think it's not a difficult task to transform from B16 to J6.

I wish you and your family have a prosperous new year
Dias Costa

Edited By dcosta on 27/12/2013 21:09:57

[Oompa LumpaParticipant @oompalumpa34302]

Posted by dcosta on 27/12/2013 19:40:26:

Hello Graham, good afternoon.

Do you mean something like this from ArcEuroTrade **here**?

MT2/B16 Rolling Tailstock Arbor (M10)

Hope this is useful.
Dias Costa

Dias, terrific, thank you. Exactly something like that!.

If I cannot get exactly the right JT6 taper is there a way of making it fit?

Sorry for the dumb questions but I am right out of my comfort zone now

graham.

[dcostaParticipant @dcosta]

Hello Graham, good afternoon.

Do you mean something like this from ArcEuroTrade **here**?

MT2/B16 Rolling Tailstock Arbor (M10)

Hope this is useful.
Dias Costa

[dcostaParticipant @dcosta]

Hello all, good afternoon.

Soon, after cleaning it and removing rust resulting from the fire, I'll re-start building the Gingery shaper machine and, again, find myself in the position to search a motor for it. Turns out, here in Portugal, I only find too expensive and too heavy motors, therefore, in preparing a request to ArcEuroTrade I discovered that they have a stepper motor with 650Ncm that with a small driver which delivers 6.5A, could be used to move the shaper machine.

Information on the stepper motor can be found **here**:
Information about the driver can be found **here**: I already use this drive to automaticaly feed the X axis of my milling.

I don't know how to compare or convert Ncm to Watts or HP.
Will 650Ncm be enough?
Will I get enough rpm?
Do you think this is a workable idea?

I would like to know your opinion, please…

Best regards
Dias Costa

[mechman48Participant @mechman48]

I fitted a pair of DRO's to my WM 16 beginning this year, IIRC Dias fitted the same but may have changed ?

Bought from ArcEuro in Jan 2013 @ £67.50 Inc. p&p,… usual disclaimer, quite easy to fix on to mill & readouts are quite clear enough for me. Whilst I admire & applaud all you guys with electronic expertise (my background being Mechanical & have always left the electrikery side to 'Sparkies' & 'Tiffies)' to make up your own, my ethos is KISS.. Keep It Simple Stupid.

For ref.. **LINK**

See my album 'DRO' for pics of fixing.

George

[NJHParticipant @njh]

Further to my previous post it looks like Arceurotrade keep the bearings see HERE – a phone call to Ketan there might be useful – he seems very helpful to me.

N

[blowlampParticipant @blowlamp]

See here **LINK**

Martin.

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Yes, that's me – Ketan at Arc Euro.

Are they going to send the gears to you directly or are they coming in Stevens' next consignment?

Ketan at ARC

[Ian HansenParticipant @ianhansen20511]

Hi Ketan, thank you for showing me.

You must be the Ketan at Arc Euro?

John will have the new, revised chart in 3 minutes.

[Simon Harrison 2Participant @simonharrison2]

I bought an Arceuro X1L mill a year ago and an Arceuro C3 lathe in the summer, never having touched a piece of metal in anger before this. I have stripped, cleaned and adjusted both with enormous improvement in performance of each, but more importantly, I have learned what makes them tick and am no longer scared of metal working machines.

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Posted by Jim Newberry 1 on 11/12/2013 21:19:58:

Again, thanks for the input everyone. The Sieg certainly seems to be a popular choice. My concern is that, having read a couple of reviews, it sounds like a strip down and rebuild is – if not inevitable – then certainly highly likely if I want it to perform as advertised. Considering that I'm a newbie to all this, the idea of having to strip down and rebuild my first lathe before I can use it properly seems somewhat daunting. The Warco lathes on the other hand apparently come all set up and ready to go. If the advertising is to be believed then it is simply a case of wiping off the protective grease layer and plugging it in, yet the comments above seem less complimentary about Warco. I live near Leamington Spa and so I reckon the Arceuro showroom in Leicester is about an hour north of me while the Warco showroom is a similar distance to the south so if I may well take a trip to each and have a look before committing myself one way or the other.

Hi Jim,

In ARCs opinion, all Chinese lathes are of similar build, be they from ARC, Tom, Dick or Harry….

In ARCs opinion, all Chinese lathes and mills require some kind of strip, adjust, lubricate at some point, depending on users experience and requirements. it is true that SIEGs or any others work straight out of the box. How much and what you wish to depend on with regard to marketing stuff any one of us sellers say, is up to you. At the end of the day, the choice is really yours.

Regardless of what you buy and who you buy from, at the end of the day, this is a hobby, and you you will enjoy making swarf on which ever lathe you buy. Just keep an open mind.

Ketan at ARC.

[magpieParticipant @magpie]

I am a volunteer with AgeUK Cheshire "men in sheds". About 6 months ago two of the "sheds" were supplied with SC3s by Arc Euro. Most of the chaps who use the lathes have never used a lathe before,so as you might imagine they are often treated rather roughly. To date we have had no problems whatsoever. I have no hesitation in recommending them and the excellent service from Arc Euro.

Cheers Derek.

P.S. Ketan, please ignore the above remarks about treatment as I think they are still under guarantee.

[James NewberryParticipant @jamesnewberry]

Again, thanks for the input everyone. The Sieg certainly seems to be a popular choice. My concern is that, having read a couple of reviews, it sounds like a strip down and rebuild is – if not inevitable – then certainly highly likely if I want it to perform as advertised. Considering that I'm a newbie to all this, the idea of having to strip down and rebuild my first lathe before I can use it properly seems somewhat daunting. The Warco lathes on the other hand apparently come all set up and ready to go. If the advertising is to be believed then it is simply a case of wiping off the protective grease layer and plugging it in, yet the comments above seem less complimentary about Warco. I live near Leamington Spa and so I reckon the Arceuro showroom in Leicester is about an hour north of me while the Warco showroom is a similar distance to the south so if I may well take a trip to each and have a look before committing myself one way or the other.

[Steve WithnellParticipant @stevewithnell34426]

Sieg SC3 would be my vote and from ArcEurotrade not Axminster. Simply because I reckon Arc are second to none where Sieg kit is concerned. I would go for the SC3 rather than the SC2 because it sounds like the biggest you can afford, and you will have to live with it for a long time, so it will give you some "head room" as you get into the hobby.

Just a few thoughts from a hobbyist. Not a time served machinist!

Steve

[Jeff DaymanParticipant @jeffdayman43397]

Just FYI If you want to have a punt at DLS, or direct metal sintering, there are several service bureaus around the world using EOS and other machines to sinter metal powder into solid parts direct from a 3D CAD file. For a small part, costs are in the hundreds of dollars. A 60 mm dia x 20 mm mould insert I recently had quoted was $1500, for example. It required high acccuracy and had some intricate internal cooling passages. Accuracies to a thou or two are possible, normal commercial quality tols are +/-.005" or so. Arcam in Sweden is one European service bureau and GLP near Chicago is one in USA. There may be a few in UK too, but I don't know them. Renishaw (the measuring probe firm) make a commercial DLS machine I am told. Google is your friend.

Bear in mind these commercial machines cost well over a million dollars each to buy at present and I am told it takes several years to train staff and do enough jobs to learn how to get accurate parts out of them. It is likely going to get cheaper and more accurate as time goes by. Because of the very high cost of machines and the time commitment to train staff, most companies today use a service bureau if they need DLS parts.

I have also been warned that all commercial DLS machines are NOT created equal and some have major inherent faults despite the huge cost. However, the EOS brand machines are widely regarded as the industry standard best machines at the moment.

JD

[Steve WithnellParticipant @stevewithnell34426]

I'm in the UK, so ArcEurotrade are my favoured supplier. I saw in a related thread that Ketan Swali at Arc had supported Steve in setting up his business. If Steve is following in Ketan's footsteps then you have a great supplier.

I would appreciate the revised gear chart. If you are interested in the "Two Speed" mod, I'll send you some notes & pictures.

Steve

[michael howarth 1Participant @michaelhowarth1]

We have used Ausee to supply a lathe for our grandson in Perth WA, for Christmas. As with others we suspected a "link" between Ausee and Arc Euro and telephoned Arc. Their subsequent recommendation gave us more confidence in proceeding with a blind transaction 10,000 miles away. The lathe has been delivered and believe it or not, my daughter is trying to work out a way of wrapping it up for Christmas!

Mick

[Ketan SwaliParticipant @ketanswali79440]

Hi Danny, yes it is a blatant example of business promotion.

As mentioned earlier, this has come about due to the questions we received about our connection with Ausee M & T.

Yes I am trying to help a start up business, in the same way as I received help from the model engineering crowd some 13 years ago when I came into this business, be it from other business friends as well as well wishers who were our first customers and who later became long terms friends.

You are absolutely right that google search fails to bring up positive results. This is to be expected for a new business under six months old. Unfortunately for Ausee M & T, Seven also has a crap Australian website designer who is a real PITA, but then again, he is working on a budget. Hence to start improving his exposure, Ausee M & T is advertising on here as well as through an Australian model engineering magazine to build up their exposure. Their website is http://www.ausee.com.au and if you click on the advert link on the right hand side of this page, it will take you to their website.

As you said, some Australian customers have raised queries with us regarding purchase of SIEG machines in Australia, through Ausee M & T, because most of their prices are cheaper than any other Australian dealer. Also, they question the after sales spares availability. Hence the clarification which I gave in my opening post.

Regarding the availability of Stevensons products, customer in OZ cannot buy them directly from China, at present. And yes, shipping costs from us are expensive. In comparison to U.K./Europe, he Oz market is relatively small, so, it still makes sense for Ausee M & T to buy bulk through us and re-sell in Oz. If once his buying power increases for selected accessories, perhaps he will buy direct from China and offer for re-sell, unless some clever person from China gets to S***bay first to offer these even cheaper with S***pal payment . Of course the customer has always got that choice. If you re-read my post, you will see that I made reference to specific/unique products. Rest I am sure that customers will always chose to buy what they want from the place of their choice.

Regardless of this development, and even with our expensive carriage, we are still extremely grateful for the custom we receive from our Australian customers. We do get good business from the Australian market, and it is still my belief that we could reach more customers, if we could offer an even better competitive option, as per our suggestion, through Ausee M & T. It is early days, so we wait and see.

Ketan at ARC.

[Danny M2ZParticipant @dannym2z]

What a blatant example of business promotion. Ausee M & T does not appear on a Google search, just Austrian lakes and herbal remedies etc. Now why would a bloke pay for double shipping and handling from China – U.K. – Oz when the same items can be obtained directly from the country of origin, which is, incidentally, much closer to Oz and arrives usually within a week at a very competitive price. Nothing against ARC, they keep a lot of people happy – in Europe. They also answer most of my queries promptly, but the shipping is the killer, so I fail to understand how shipping an item twice around the world would make it cheaper in Oz? Good luck to the new 'local' supplier, if I could find their website I might even give them a try.

* Danny M *

[Bill PudneyParticipant @billpudney37759]

I recently bought some stuff from Ausee and was impressed with their customer service. When my order arrived with a copy of their catalogue, I wondered if there was a Arc Euro/Ausee connection, and there is!!

So now I'm a happy customer of both ArcEuro and Ausee

cheers

Bill

[Steve WithnellParticipant @stevewithnell34426]

The minimum is what makes you happy. If a file, a drill and screwdriver delights then that is fine. People used to make steam engines with not much more. The answer relies on context. If you have a mortgage to pay based on making bits to a tolerance, then wholly different answer.

I continue to lust after one of those CNC machines from Arceurotrade, so the MINIMUM is a KX1…and it is the minimum if you want to make bits using CNC. Depends on what your hobby is. I find filing quite soothing so I don't do absolutely everything on the mill. If getting a component bob on square, it will go on the mill. So for me a mill is part of my minimum.

"All the best machinists I have known have been those who are so aware of their own limitations and have such high standards that they cannot see the quality of work they do produce. Shame really."

This is true – who does not see only the errors in the completed model? Even when others regard it with envy? I think this applies not just to the best machinist's but anyone setting out to produce a model to a high standard.

The first real "powerup" in my workshop was a Clarke bench grinder, I simply cannot imagine how people get by without one. Then came the lathe, then the mill…

Regards

Steve

[magpieParticipant @magpie]

I went to the last Chester open week on the first day and I have to say that even with the rather small price reductions the stuff on sale was still more expensive than dealers like ArcEuro. No prejudice, as I have a Chester mill and lathe. I think that most of the folk there were pensioners, and I am 73 yoa.

Cheers Derek.

[John Stevenson 1Participant @johnstevenson1]

There is another one for use on a surface grinder that does ends only.

Here is the J&L MSC link. **LINK**

It takes 5C collets but the picture is a bit confusing as it's photographed on it's side. Basically it's a collet holder with 12 positions for 2,3, 4, and 6 tooth cutters and has two angles on the base.

One angle, the steepest is to do the secondary clearance angles and the shallow one is for the primary cutting angles.

I bought one and the problem with it is setting these up because the collet tightens from underneath via a nut and pin spanner meaning you have to keep mounting these and resetting them to make sure that the lands are square on to the wheel.

I redesigned mine to take ER32 collets. This makes it better in that it's not as tall and can get in under the wheel on smaller grinders plus the cutter can be altered / changed from the top, making it a lot easier to use.

The good news is you don't have to buy an expensive attachment them modify it because I sold the design to Ketan at ARC for £2.00 [ still unpaid ] and he's now selling them cheaper than the J&L one.

**LINK**

John S.