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    jon hill 3
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      @jonhill3

      Had a problem with a set of basin mixer taps where the ceramic cartridge wont turn due to the spline in the tap handle being worn down. So to clarify the female spline is worn.  I has tried ptfe tape as that was all I had to hand with limited success.

      The tap in question is on a low pressure gravity feed system and these taps are getting harder to find new replacements, (lack of demand due to most people going over to combi boilers or unvented hotwater storage cylinders).

      I have been thinking of using a suitable locktite glue for gappy joints or something such as gasket sealer.

      Any suggestions to a suitable glue?

      #830625
      Wink Hackman
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        @winkhackman25989

        Loctite 577. But you’ll probably never get it off again. However a quick look online showed plenty of low-pressure basin taps available.

        #830626
        noel shelley
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          @noelshelley55608

          My experience of ceramic taps is that in the end it is better to change, the time and cost of repair seldom pans out. The quarter turn tap was a classic example of change rather than improvement. Revert to a type of tap with a washer and have a spare set of washer handy, if after decades the seat fails just recut and it will last more decades. Good luck. Noel.

          #830636
          jon hill 3
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            @jonhill3

            I dont mind if I cant get the tap handle off again as the customer is moving on in a few months and the whole heating/hot water system has a high probabilty of being replaced with an unvented system.  So I would expect most of the taps will be upgraded to suite.

            I will have to check the market Noel Im not sure there are many conventional washer based taps to buy new.

            I dont have locktite 577, I do have 601, 641 and 271 or some alrydite rapid epoxy if that might work?

            Im not sure where I would get 577 before next week….

            I do have some evostik impack (contact adhesive) if that is a practical solution?

             

            #830652
            MichaelR
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              @michaelr

              If you have the epoxy resin filler, then I would give that a try

              #830657
              Bo’sun
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                @bosun58570
                On noel shelley Said:

                My experience of ceramic taps is that in the end it is better to change, the time and cost of repair seldom pans out. The quarter turn tap was a classic example of change rather than improvement. Revert to a type of tap with a washer and have a spare set of washer handy, if after decades the seat fails just recut and it will last more decades. Good luck. Noel.

                Glad I’m not the only one.  Simple seems best.  Mind you, changing a tap washer seems beyond the capability of some folk these days.

                #830658
                Robert Atkinson 2
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                  @robertatkinson2

                  I don’t think loctite 577 or similar threadlock will cure against a ceramic surface.
                  Personally I use Sikaflex EBT+ or similar adhesive / sealant. Sticks well with a little bit of flex. IT can also be pulled apart if required.  Second choice would be epoxy.

                  Robert.

                  #830663
                  JasonB
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                    @jasonb

                    J B Weld (original formula) if you are not bothered about getting it off again.

                    Robert the ceramic cartride is usually within the tap body and that is actuated by a splined shaft. The OP says the mating spline in the handwheel has worn so metal to metal.

                    #830700
                    duncan webster 1
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                      @duncanwebster1
                      On Bo’sun Said:
                      On noel shelley Said:

                      My experience of ceramic taps is that in the end it is better to change, the time and cost of repair seldom pans out. The quarter turn tap was a classic example of change rather than improvement. Revert to a type of tap with a washer and have a spare set of washer handy, if after decades the seat fails just recut and it will last more decades. Good luck. Noel.

                      Glad I’m not the only one.  Simple seems best.  Mind you, changing a tap washer seems beyond the capability of some folk these days.

                      Count me in, even the concept of a mixer tap is overcomplicated for me. As for those push button toilet flush things, they must waste a vast amount of water when the start to leak continually. With the old syphonic you could rely on them stopping. Keep it simple is a good motto

                      #830759
                      jon hill 3
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                        @jonhill3

                        I went with a rapid set araldite to glue the handle to the spline in the end.  If that fails then its a new mixer tap.  Perhaps I should have clarified its a monoblock tap with separate hot and cold so perhaps not technically a true mixer tap as its not single handle.

                        I havent used JB weld, Im guessing its a bit firmer then epoxy?

                        As to cartridge taps I don’t have much love of them as getting a replacement is like some mythical quest.  they don’t come under any BS standard no. so infinite variety.

                        Although I haven’t yet tried it it might be easier to take one apart and replace the orings and other sealing parts.

                        #830933
                        Packmule
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                          @packmule

                          If using JB Weld why not spray  with silicone or use Vaseline as a release agent on the threads.

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