Problem with LED lights

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2 April 2020 at 15:06 #461818
Brian H
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I've found the problem with LED lights in the workshop since fitting some, my lathe looks terrible. The paint is discoloured and the metalwork badly oil stained!

The paint could be T-Cut but can someone suggest a safe way of restoring the shine to the metalwork?

Brian
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2 April 2020 at 15:06 #27250
Brian H
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2 April 2020 at 15:34 #461828
Tim Stevens
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I have found that white LED lamps can show up the rusty colouration on steel. I suspect this is because the 'colour balance' of the LEDs is not exactly sunlight. The shine on the metalwork is just the same as it was, of course …

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2 April 2020 at 16:55 #461865
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My experience with "Daylight" LED's in place of fluorescents was poor too and hard on the eyes … to the extent that I switched back to fluorescents for the main ceiling lighting. If I went LED again I'd definitely go for the "Warm Light" type.
2 April 2020 at 17:01 #461866
Michael Gilligan
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The really fussy will want to search out LEDs with ‘High Colour Rendering Index’

The next best option is usually ‘Warm White’ [ as per Bandersnatch ]

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2 April 2020 at 17:15 #461871
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 02/04/2020 17:01:21:

The really fussy will want to search out LEDs with ‘High Colour Rendering Index’

Which might not be "over-fussy" at that, in a workshop setting (painting models etc).

Never seen or heard of them myself actually … might be over-taxing on the pocket?
2 April 2020 at 17:44 #461873
Bob Stevenson
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Interesting……..

I have been using daylight 6400k LED bulbs for worklights for some time now and like working under them a lot,…far better than any tungsten bulb. However, it pays to use as large a bulb as possible in a pearlescent finish as these give a much superior and even light spread over a larger area of the work…ideal for close detail work and turning in the lathe etc……. When my local 'Hombase' closed a few months back I aquired large daylight bulbs and clamp typ holders with white reflectors and they have made first class worklights which can be positioned easily over bench, lathe or drill and give a continuous field of light which I find excellent.

The clamp type lamp holders were all of 2 quid a piece and the big leds (in ES screw) were about one each!

Edited By Bob Stevenson on 02/04/2020 17:47:09
2 April 2020 at 18:36 #461890
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Bob, I've come to the conclusion that people either love the daylight LED lights or hate 'em. My wife hates them with a vengeance and i didn't get along well with them.

It may also depend on actual lighting levels though. I had rather a lot of lighting in the form of fluorescent strip lights when I changed mine and that may have been too much when I switched to (daylight) LED tube replacements. Under those circumstances, the warmer LEDs might have worked better.

Possible it also depends on type of bulb (strip-lights or round bulb).
2 April 2020 at 19:13 #461896
Michael Gilligan
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Posted by Bandersnatch on 02/04/2020 17:15:51:

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 02/04/2020 17:01:21:

The really fussy will want to search out LEDs with ‘High Colour Rendering Index’

Which might not be "over-fussy" at that, in a workshop setting (painting models etc).

Never seen or heard of them myself actually … might be over-taxing on the pocket?

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Here is a straight quote from one of my posts on another forum:

Here's an enthusiastic young man demonstrating the merit of high CRI
**LINK**

… and a couple of pages from the yuji site:
**LINK**
**LINK**

All rather impressive.

MichaelG.

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Happy to discuss further, but at present I’m O.K.with my various ‘Warm White’ lamps.
2 April 2020 at 19:53 #461907
Michael Gilligan
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Sorry, that first YUJI link seems to be dead now

… But browsing their site is informative.

MichaelG.
2 April 2020 at 20:42 #461926
Brian H
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I don't think my lathe has a problem with the light colour, it definitely looks very grubby on the paintwork and the metalwork is a definite shade of brown from oil and, I hate to say 'rust ' but there is definitely a brownish tinge to it. I've just found some rust remover called 'Evapo-Rust' and quick rub with a cloth impregnated with it removes at least some of the brown.

Brian
2 April 2020 at 22:06 #461948
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 02/04/2020 19:13:33:

All rather impressive.

Yes … very. Bit expensive for normal workshop use ….. although someone who was heavily into an activity which needed it might go there. Or at least set it up in a corner somewhere.

Thanks for the links !
3 April 2020 at 13:28 #462081
SillyOldDuffer
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Posted by Brian H on 02/04/2020 20:42:59:

I don't think my lathe has a problem with the light colour, it definitely looks very grubby on the paintwork and the metalwork is a definite shade of brown from oil and, I hate to say 'rust ' but there is definitely a brownish tinge to it.

…

Brian

The new bright white LED lighting did you a favour by revealing a light rust problem before it did any damage! Mind you, there's a lot to said for dim lighting – my work looks best in total darkness!

Dave
3 April 2020 at 17:39 #462133
Brian H
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Several items that should have arrived today……didn't! So I've started cleaning the lathe; only problem is that now I've removed most of the grime on the paint, I can see lots of primer. I don't intend to repaint the lathe just yet but I've started to dismantle the Dickinson style toolpost to clear out years of dirt and swarf. The is a depressed circle in it that I believe should have a Boxford disc in it, I'll have to see if I can get one or else it will be print one and varnish it.

Brian
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