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  • #22722
    Robonthemoor
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      @robonthemoor

      Size to big?

      #124698
      Robonthemoor
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        @robonthemoor

        I have just bought a travelling steady from chronos for my myford super 7 lathe, & it's to big. It states on the box ML7 , is the ML7 one larger? Or am I fitting it wrong? I noted on RDG tools site they state steady to fit ML7/super7 so I thought it would fit , it is too high, 3 inch from base to centre, & I think I need 2inch. Help please.

        Rob

        #124699
        John Baguley
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          @johnbaguley78655

          Hi Rob,

          Are you trying to mount it on the cross-slide? It should bolt onto the chuck end of the saddle using a tapped hole there. The 3 inch height will be correct then.

          John

          #124701
          The Merry Miller
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            @themerrymiller

            My genuine Myford steady is about 3" from the mounting face to the approximate centre.

            Len. P.

            #124702
            Robonthemoor
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              @robonthemoor

              Yes I was, will look on saddle can't say I found a holl will go and look, any photos of this hole would be good,

              Rob

              #124703
              Robonthemoor
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                @robonthemoor

                Yes found the 2 holes on the saddle, but far to far back, the hole on the steady is at the front ! Some what larger.

                rob

                #124705
                John Baguley
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                  @johnbaguley78655

                  Does this help? The tapped hole on my ML7 is approximately in the centre.

                  myford fixed steady.jpg

                  Edited By John Baguley on 16/07/2013 16:49:42

                  #124707
                  Lambton
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                    @lambton

                    The hole you require is right at the front of the saddle (chuck end) low down and approx. half way across the bed. It is tapped 1/4" BSF and probably has a hex headed blanking set screw in it.

                    Some years ago I also bought a travelling steady for my S7 from Chronos at an exhibition and it was the most useless item that I ever purchased. The mounting hole was oversize at 10 mm diameter plus and it was drilled at about 10 degrees out of line.

                    . The horizontal "finger " was 2 mm below centre height. Both fingers were too sloppy in their grooves.

                    I should have returned it but like a fool I took the task of correcting it as a challenge, so I plugged the hole, re-machined a 1/4" clearance hole in the correct place ( so that the vertical finger was aligned with the lathe axis)and made a 2 mm thick spacer for the base. But I was not happy with the item as it represented my stupidity and folly buying cheap Far Eastern junk. I sold it cheaply to a fellow S7 owner after fully explaining its history. He was very happy with it. I kept my eye on eBay for while and managed to get a genuine Nottingham Myford steady that had been stored for years but not used for about the same price as the Chronos one.

                    I have to say that I have also had some good items from Chronos but the just seem to sell what ever they receive without any proper quality control.

                    The moral of the story for me was to always buy the best I can afford and not insult a superbly made Myford lathe by attaching junk to it!

                    Eric

                    #124711
                    NJH
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                      @njh

                      Rob

                      If you are dissatisfied with the one you have bought you can make your own. College Engineering sell the castings/materials and it is an good exercise in some simple machining. Here, as they say, is one I made earlier! It was originally for my ML10 and you may note a piece of M/S fixed to the bottom to allow for the increase in centre height when I upgraded to a S7. The downside is that I think that the cost of the casting & materials is about the same as the finished item from one of the suppliers mentioned. On the other hand think of the satisfaction in making it yourself!

                      trav. steady (from casting) 1.jpg

                      #124775
                      NJH
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                        @njh

                        Alternatively you can find a used one HERE

                        N

                        #124781
                        Nobby
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                          @nobby

                          Hi
                          I agree with Rob why not make one ?
                          Nobby

                          travelling steady

                          Edited By JasonB on 17/07/2013 12:25:34

                          #124782
                          John Stevenson 1
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                            @johnstevenson1

                            Work out what you want to turn and make your own to suit.

                            Problem with steady's, fixed and travelling is that no one size suits all jobs.

                            #124787
                            Robonthemoor
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                              @robonthemoor

                              Thank for all your help guys, will return this one, chronos are ok with that, I have found a proper one for sale, & yes making my own will happen, as you say! No one tool will do all.

                              Ps since John baguley put his photo on, the support our partners adds are through the middle of all your nice comments! How do I stop that? Is it doing that on your screen to.
                              Many thanks for all your support
                              rob.
                              #124793
                              John Baguley
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                                @johnbaguley78655

                                Maybe Jasonb can have a look and see if it is my photo that is causing it?

                                I assumed that the software would make the thumbnail a suitable size for the page and then you click on it to view full sized. That's how 'proper' software works anyway.

                                Unfortunately, there doesn't seem a way to edit a photo (e.g. reduce it's size) once it's in your photo album

                                By the way, Nobby's photo is bigger than mine wink

                                I've never had this problem with the adverts overlapping the posts (Firefox + XP) but I do use an advert blocker which stops them appearing in the first place!

                                John

                                 

                                Edited By John Baguley on 17/07/2013 11:59:28

                                #124797
                                JasonB
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                                  @jasonb

                                  Looks like someone beat me to it but I've taken it down a bit more, just click the image if you want to see it larger.

                                  J

                                  #124817
                                  Robonthemoor
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                                    @robonthemoor

                                    Just taped the holes out to clean them, 1/4 UNF, you were spot on again.

                                    #124818
                                    The Merry Miller
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                                      @themerrymiller

                                      Rob,

                                      The ads down the middle of the screen are only on my Ipad3 and not on my P.C.

                                      Len. P.

                                      #124819
                                      Robonthemoor
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                                        @robonthemoor

                                        Still got the adds through the posts, but NJH & Nobby's photos are ok"

                                        #124998
                                        roy entwistle
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                                          @royentwistle24699

                                          Mine is 1/4 BSF not UNF There is a different thread count

                                          Roy

                                          #125011
                                          Robonthemoor
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                                            @robonthemoor

                                            How do you count treads in a small holl like that.

                                            Rob

                                            #125012
                                            Nobby
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                                              @nobby

                                              Hi Rob & Guys
                                              Try various screws until one screws in . MY S& Mk, 1 is 1/4 BSF The rule us toolmaker's used to use was Whiworth in cast iron and BSF in steel I dont if you can in this case but larger threaded hole you can press plasticine into half the hole then check form with using a thread gauge . Having trouble uploading photo,s or has it already been said ? Note M6 would screw in mine as well

                                              Nobby

                                              #125036
                                              Robonthemoor
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                                                @robonthemoor

                                                Thanks for that info I will keep that in mind, I tried a few different bolts and thought 1/4 unf was about right! So I put a unf tap through just to clean the thread and again seamed to go smooth! But bsf is so close to unf , or well it's done now & it bolts up ok.

                                                rob

                                                #125064
                                                Lambton
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                                                  @lambton

                                                  Rob,

                                                  For the information of others.

                                                  1/4" BSF is 26 tpi 55 degree thread angle whereas 1/4" UNF is 28 tpi with a 60 degree angle. They are thus NOT interchangeable. What you have done by running a UNF tap through a BSF hole is to produce what is called a "bastard" thread that will now be weak so please be careful when tightening the fixing bolt as the internal thread will strip easily.

                                                  Myford have never used Unified threads just BSF a few BA and some metric thread to hold the head stock down (M8) and some to fasten the gearbox to the head stock (M6).

                                                  The whole idea of the unified thread system was to overcome the difficulties found during WW2 with the incompatibility of British threads with American ones.

                                                  It was a failure because it only "helped " with Whitworth threads (except 1/2&quot not BSF. In the 1960s the motor industry adopted Unified threads which cause a lot of confusion particularly with spanner sizes. Often spares had to be duplicated to accommodate vehicles with common parts but with different thread systems. Frankly the whole thing was a shambles. Thank goodness the metric system was adopted soon afterwards and bought some standardisation back into the industry.

                                                  America still persists with its own thread systems for many domestic applications although metric fasteners are very slowly being adopted. I do not think the Americans ever accepted or used the Unified system – they just carried on regardless.

                                                  Eric

                                                  #125066
                                                  Ian S C
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                                                    @iansc

                                                    You can screw a bit of wood into the hole, remove it and measure on the thread gauge, that way will do for most sizes, including quite small. Ian S C

                                                    #125077
                                                    Robbo
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                                                      @robbo

                                                      Might be best to drill it out and tap it a size larger, and increase the siz e of the hole in the steady.

                                                      There can be a lifting strain on travelling steadies, so better safe than sorry (today's trite comment!).

                                                      Or fix the steady on and give it a tug!!

                                                      Phil

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